The Piercing Truth

This is right from the dictionary and seems to describe Albuquerque, Berry and Schultz. Fascism (f ash ,izem) noun An authoritarian right wing system of government and/or social organization. (in general use) extreme right wing, authoritarian, chauvinistic and/or intolerant views or practices. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one group over another, national, ethnic, especially social strata or monetarily; a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach. Compliments of one of our Eyes

Oct 28, 2012

Nothing is as It Seems

On this coming Wednesday, on October 31, the final day of the John Doyle v. Ray Schultz labor hearing will (unless APD lawyer Kathy Levy gains ANOTHER continuance) conclude. If you recall, former APD Officer, and retired highly decorated Philadelphia Police Department officer, John Doyle was terminated by Chief Schultz almost a year ago stemming from the circumstances surrounding the arrest of wanted violent felon Nicholas Blume.

Since several months have passed since the last hearing many stunning revelations have unfolded that not only cast doubt on Chief Schultz's stated reasons for Officer Doyle and Officer Woolever's terminations, but seem to indicate their termination was unlawful and based on fiction. We wish this could be a case of "trick or treat" but it isn't. Chief Schultz initially stated the officers were terminated for their use of force in subduing a combative felon via the least intrusive means--but then it was revealed that kicks to the torsoe and shoulder are taught at APD's academy. Then Chief Schultz said it was for lying, but then it was revealed that it was Officer Doyle himself who obtained a copy of the very video tape that APD sensationalized at Officer Doyle's expense. Chief Schultz then did all he could to invite a federal indictment against the Officers under 18 USC 242 only to find the officers fully cooperative in their criminal investigation and to see that the actions of the officers were well within the confines of trained and practiced activities DESPITE how the video looks to uniformed citizens or book-trained instructors at the NM DPS academy.

We wish Officer Doyle the best in his effort to regain his job and to pursue all available means of relief to restore all that he has lost. For those interested in attending and supporting officer Doyle, the hearing starts at 9am and is at the old-SID building on Randolph just west of Yale SE. We would remind all those arm chair critics who attacked and continue to denounce Officer Doyle's actions that you are talking about the efforts of a season front line first responder with over twenty years of experience working the meanest streets in the country. As such we find it of little irony that not one person who was called to testify against Officer Doyle even remotely has his skills, training, or experience in street level law enforcement. We would also remind critics to take a hard look at Graham v. Connor one more time.....

44 comments:

Anonymous said...

Very nice article Eye. If ever there were two officers who cared about their fellow officers, it was those two. Good cops. Every cop who worked with them knows they were wronged. I hope they win and this case shows how dirty they were done. They did their job and could have been killed that night. They went home alive and a bad guy who would have killed went to jail alive.

Anonymous said...

There should be a sea of blue at this hearing standing up for Doyle. But they are all intimidated away. If you can't stand up for yourselves, how can you be expected to stand up for others?

Anonymous said...

Who are all the 34s that testified against Doyle. Fuck it, name names because I don't want them as 82. And let me guess, Olivas is in this mess also.

Anonymous said...

The ones that testified are the ones that take the easy way when doing anything. Get hired, work the field for six months, go inside to a closet, and then attend ALL KINDS of schools to beef up their resume and then use what they SO CALLED learned in those schools against officers that were ONLY DOING their job... Doyle & Woolever deserve to get their jobs back... Schultz ONLY went after them to make the DOJ think he was doing his job... And he continues to do the same thing.. May God be with Doyla and Woolever during this time...

Anonymous said...

We dident show up because the highers will retaliate. I have a family to feed and can't chance it. Doyle was a good 34 not much good to say about Woolever, he cared more about his muscles then work. Officers are leaving and the manning levels are pathetic. Hope all you haters are happy.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Eye for this insightful, truthful, and caring statement. This has been a long, tiring, and bleak journey at times that Officer Doyle has had to take since relocating to New Mexico. However, we know it is far from over. We are very aware of all that has occurred over the last 17 months.

To watch a career and the work he has done his whole adult life destroyed is very upsetting.

We would like to thank those that did support John over the last 17 months. When you go thru something like this and away from home it is harder to deal with unless you have true friends to support you. We know who was there for him.

We also thank Rob (Officer Woolever) who stood along side John through this ordeal, which partners don't always do. Rob is a very honorable officer in his own right whose career has been taken away by APD as well

Our hopes are that the Arbitration Board will see the truth and what was wrongly done to Officers Doyle and Woolever and act accordingly.

We believe things happen for a reason. We have to believe that there will be positive things that can come from this life experience.

We have always been proud of the work John has done and believe that on that February night in 2011 he and Rob did what they needed to do to apprehend this felon who previously eluded APD on several occasions. No matter what the outcome is of this, we will always be proud of the job he was sworn to do with honor and integrity.

All of you need to unite behind the truth.

God Bless

The Family of Officer John Doyle

Anonymous said...

I don't know any details of this case, and am not interested to be honest. I cant seen these problems from my house...

But I will say this, most people who comment on here act like APD is the only organization in the world where the worker bees get treated unfairly by management. Most workers will tell you horror story after horror story of how unfair their boss is and how unfair their workplace is. Pretty much anyone with a job in New mexico is employed "at will", meaning they can fire you for any reason they want to. Some organizations felt this practice was unfair and they formed unions to protect their workers rights. You have a police union, let them do their job or stop paying dues, or find another line of work.

It's not nearly as bad as you make it out to be. I've known people who lost their jobs for a lot less.

Anonymous said...

@125, not only do you make little, if any, sense but you're simply wrong on most of your assertions.

The fact is, Doyle and Woolever were fired without any cause and many rights held by them were flagrantly violated by Ray Schultz. Period.

Anonymous said...

1:25

Go ask any retired APD employee, and you'll find out just how bad it is. Comments like that crack me up. It's fine, and not as bad as you think until it's YOU that is the one wronged. Officers aren't baking cookies, sweeping floors or mowing lawns. They are risking their lives every day to protect us. When they get used as political pawns by a chief with a more than checkered past for doing their jobs, and apprehending a violent felon, it is a disgrace. And when the order takers don't have the guts to do what is right, and instead form fit an investigation, hiding evidence, intimidating witnesses, and lying it is worse. When you are wrong, you are wrong. The investigator's job is to put forth a fair case, not one that has to win by all means. When you are wrong, you don't change your story and make up another false reason for termination. This is where APD is getting out of control. They move forward until they reach their desired conclusion. You think it's not that bad? Imagine investigators dealing with the public that are taking orders to get people one way or another. When someone is cleared one way, ramp up and come at them at another angle until you can find something that looks like you can get them with, then when that doesn't happen, just fire them anyway. The shame about it is that it happens, and that should never happen.

When an IA investigator tells an officer what to say in an IA investigation in a "recorded off the record" conversation after getting up and closing the door something is wrong. Now hopefully all involved will see what the right thing is all about.

Anonymous said...

previous poster..." Pretty much anyone with a job in New mexico is employed "at will", meaning they can fire you for any reason they want to. " Really, for any reason? Will you hire me please because I'll own your ass.

Anonymous said...

I'm the poster from 1:25 that the last three responses are about. I have a few follow up comments:

To 3:18 pm: Your quote: "The fact is, Doyle and Woolever were fired without any cause and many rights held by them were flagrantly violated by Ray Schultz. Period."
My response: If what you say is true (and it very well may be, remember that I started my post with a statement about how I am not familair with the details) where is your union on this issue?

To 4:45 pm: Your quote "Officers aren't baking cookies, sweeping floors or mowing lawns" My comment: So you feel that yur job is more important than mine, and more important than many others...fair enough. But does your boss (Schultz) think that as well? No he doesnt. Does the mayor think that your job is very important? No, unfortunately he doesnt. So you can preach to the converted all day long, you need to convice your bosses, not me.

To 5:12 pm: Your quote "Will you hire me please because I'll own your ass." My comment: Really??? Thats your response, thats your approach?? Hire me so that I can sue you. Isnt that already a big problem at APD and with the City, a bunch of people got hired so they can sue. How much has the City paid out?? You, sir, are part of the problem with that attitude.

I have to admit that it's a very wierd feeling to have a police officer tell me that he's gonna own my ass...odd.

I'm not a hater, good luck to you all, I'd much rather live in a city where the police are happy, seems like a better environment for everyone.

Anonymous said...

Sure, I get it. Every cop fired from APD did nothing wrong and should not have been fired. They are all upstanding citizens and employees. Please, give the public a break. A handfull of cops have been terminated out of 900? Ever cop is perfect? Seems as though there are many cops working the street not getting media attention and still doing their job. There are bad apples in every barrel and it appears they have been identified in APD. The general public supports APD and supports the removal of the few bad cops. We are tired of the hearing that any cop that is terminated was done so wrongly. Please let us know of any firing of a cop in the last 10 years that you agree with. Your defense of everyone fired smells to high heaven and shows your one sidedness to those in the department. No corporation has perfect employees yet you want the public to believe that APD does, we are not buying into your ideology. Good ridance to those terminated, they are nothing but a black eye on the city and the department.

Anonymous said...

What a surprise, the hearing site has been moved to 600 2nd Street NW, 7th Floor....

Anonymous said...

cops fired in the past ten years we agree with??? Easy: Levi Chavez, Matt Kindle, Joey Sigala, Chris Chase and there's plenty more dumbass.

For the other poster...at least you responded with a degree of intelligence despite your error filled previous post. Where is the union in this? They, that being APOA president Joey Sigala, were complicit in cutting Doyle and Woolever loose. The point about owning your ass, while not mine, reflects the fact that while there are "at will" employees, you may not terminate them for any reason. It's that simple. There are labor laws that require some degree of justification...so you cannot fire somebody for racial, ethnic, gender, etc. reasons...

Anonymous said...

Texas state police show up at Socorro tx police station and arrest cops and take computers......wonder how long apd has before this happens in albq

Anonymous said...

"The Albuquerque Journal won the top honor for public service in its division for “rooting out serious problems” in the Albuquerque Police Department, along with first-place finishes in seven other categories as part of the 2012 Better Newspaper Contest.
Journal reporter Jeff Proctor and the newspaper’s editorial staff took first place in the Public Service category. The judges commended Proctor’s “wonderful use of all the tools in a journalist’s toolbox for rooting out serious problems with APD. Top notch work.” "

Anonymous said...

To 9:03, please list the many more you are referring to. It is rather amusing that you have to end your comment by calling the requestor a dumbass. But then again maybe you are one of the few officers that is constantly going to internal affairs reference complaints and ultimately one of those that will be terminated. Your attitude and command of the english language certainly shows you are predisposed to termination.
Goof luck in your new career.

Anonymous said...

Yea APD identifies it's bad apples. A bunch work on the 5th floor in APD's Main building. They are confirmed liars who lie under oath and during investigations. They can't keep track of all their lies. But you know that already because you are one of them just posting your BS propaganda. I'll tell you what 5th floor friend, give the citizens a real break and quit costing the city millions in lawsuits that have to be paid out for terminating employees illegally. Quit doing illegal things to your employees and maybe you all will stop losing your shirts in EVERY case you get sued in. Schultz retaliates against his employees for doing the right thing and he stepped in it with this one and he's trying to get everyone and their mother to back him on it and they all know it is dirty. So why don't you just roll over and eat your burr-eat-ooh off his ass.

The above poster is right, a higher law enforcement entity needs to come in, shut down APD and seize all their records and computers. The shit they woukld find would be amazing.

Anonymous said...

@1046..."Predisposed to termination?" "Goof luck in your new career?" Quit trying to come off smarter than you really are, you look like a dumbass even.

Anonymous said...

Hahahahahahahahaha...........
NOW THAT IS FUNNY.
Jeff Proctor wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and smacked him in the face. For a journalist who likes to omit facts that's the biggest bold faced lie I have said this side of Schultz opening his mouth. But good luck on that.
And way to pat yourself on the back. It seems that all this recognition concerning all these great ones is self generated. Pathetic.

Anonymous said...

"Goof luck in your new career." Oh my the grammar police are here again proving they they're no better than anybody else.

Anonymous said...

To the poster who began his/her initial post with "I know little of the details..." Your comments would be far more impressive if you knew the details. Fortunately, in the United States, every citizen is entitled to their opinion, no matter how ill-informed it is. The "union" you referred to has had its previous president fired and he is now under investigation for embezzlement and other crimes...the current "union" administration was hand picked by the PD Administration and is not even supporting their membership in Certification Board's attempt to overturn previous abeyance decisions that are awaiting disposition of appeals (that is called due process) in favor of terminating certification (a dealth knell to the future of a law enforcement officer). So Mr./Ms. 1:25...learn the details..then comments..but again is your right to open your mouth and prove your own ignorance of the details.

Anonymous said...

As usual APD twists peoples words omits and edits statements. They will never learn.

Anonymous said...

I just read the todays paper.. Looks like Tillman filed a EEOC complaint on Ray Ray. I'm not a Ray Ray fan but are you serious Frank? You should be glad your not fired. Some 34 s have been fired for less you pervert.. You fucked up so own it and stop playing the race card.

Anonymous said...

Schultz screws over cops for doing their jobs, yet covers for cops who are perverts, adulterers, thieves, and liars. Anyone who would entertain taking a job with APD is totally insane. Nothing but a bunch of back stabbing cowards afraid to do the right thing because a lying pussy police chief retaliates against them.
The first case that the LEA board drings the Koolaide on is going to open them up to the biggest civil liability they can imagine, setting precedence for their double dipping, double dipping ways of getting their way ends. The tax payers should know that Ray Schulltz violates rights and sets up government agencies to take the on the liability of his vindictive actions. The first hearing on this will be the last and there will be no more attacking certs after and officer has gone through a disciplinary process with their agency.

Anonymous said...

EEOC??? Why did damatolegal have Franky do that!?!

Anonymous said...

At 2:31. Redneck

Anonymous said...

Hey Shultz, how is the handling of each case on a case by case situation working for you on Tillman case.

Anonymous said...

Rumor is Ray Ray is spinning by going to KOAT to cry the sky is falling because APD officers are retiring in droves. He is attempting to say it is because of the proposed PERA reform, but that has been addressed and the 7 year waiting period for retirees to get their COLA's has been put off until 2016. Of course Ray Ray isn't going to disclose that, nope, he is crying that all these APD officers are leaving because of PERA. Ray has never taken responsibility so he will never admit it is his fault. Just look at the number of command staff officers who have left while Ray has been chief. So here is a scoup for the KOAT reporter, ask Ray point blank if he is responsible for the large number of retirements. Or will this be more Ray Ray Spin.

Anonymous said...

We are hearing people are pulling their retirement letters now..... Ask around....

Anonymous said...

I'll tell you what. Here's one better. Find a list of all of the officers retiring, and ask them. Let them tell you the truth behind the mass exodus of a combined thousands of years of experience. Schultz is a liar. Plain and simple. And the officers are sick and tired of working for a an asshole that lies, sets them up, and walks around like an arrogant bag of ass who can do no wrong. The media writes all day about the department and it's officers. They read this site every day, yet they leave this creep untouched. It's funny how the mall cop article faded away after the police report came out. Every time schults opens his lying mouth, the truth is posted here. Any officer who is able to retire is going to rather than risk their life by working for a criminal who promotes malicious prosecution, tampering with evidence, and witness intimidation in order to make themself look good. Working for APD is probably the most treacherous place to be an officer in the country, because you have a dilusional maniac who will do anything including exposing his officers to life threatening actions to cover his own ass. Then when caught, he will lie about it and direct others to do the same.
If one media outlet in the city of Albuquerque would sprout a set of balls and write the truth, they would corner the market on more stories than they could handle as the pandora's box is opened. But no, that takes some fortitude, and a willingness to hurt some feelings and do the right thing.

I spoke with a man last week who told me that he thought about applying with APD but wouldn't think of it until the current administration was removed. You want people to stay. You want recruitment to go up? Get rid of a handful of them along with a couple other employees in city offices who are negatively influencing the police department, and teh whole thing turns around. The problem is a few creeps at the top and a mayor who will look like he is admitting it by fireing them all. Sad isn't it?

Anonymous said...

KOAT reporters are horrible, they will not ask the REAL questions. They are too busy reporting about animals being abused. At KOAT its always a SLOW DAY for news.....

Anonymous said...

Shit is falling apart because of a failure of a police chief. That is the entire reason for shit falling apart. There is no other reason. Period. What more do people need to know. This malfeasant has driven this place into the pit. It will not change or get better until he takes his happy ass out of here. It's pathetic that somebody needs their position so much. It is more pathetic that leaders of this city let a police department and city crumble for the sake of this clown.

Anonymous said...

Who is the Eye going to back for mayor?

Anonymous said...

Funny how in departments that honor their officers folks tend to stick around forever. Who ever heard of cops retiring as soon as they can except here. Nowhere else do they because it's a GREAT job! But here, Schultz sucks so bad, not only are people leaving as soon as they can, but they're resigning and lateraling away! Ain't nobody pulling back their letters when you got these imbeciles arranging deck chairs on a ship going down.....

Anonymous said...

12:45,

Funny.... The chief must be leaving, because the last I've heard as of yesterday, APD is a treacherous place where officers are terrified to do their jobs. It is miserable, with an all time low in manpower. Morale is nonexistent. Everyone is miserable, and it is getting worse by the minute. I also heard that it is as eerie as working in 1943 Germany for the Nazis, where nobody trusts anyone. Just sayin.....

Ask around......

Anonymous said...

So how do people get their seat on the LEA Board? The Mayor won't deal with RayRay but who's turning a blind Eye to Korn's conflict of interest? And are they getting a paycheck to "serve" on the Board"?

Anonymous said...

Now you are all seeing the wheels of the dirty machine in motion.

1. You get a month suspension for texting a minor lewd crap.

2. The chief sets the wheels of this bullshit cert revocation nonsense in motion with the LEA board.

3. A recommendation comes back to fire said officer.

4. The chief really wants to, but strategizes to use the situation as a propaganda opportunity to make it look like he is not hanging every cop he can. When the recommendation comes down for termination the chief gets to act like the good guy which is all bullshit.

5. CAO and Mayor want termination and the chief knows that a letter is getting sent to the LEA board for consideration of action to be taken against said officer's cert.

6. Board recommends legnthy suspension or revocation, and the chief says OH MY....I have no choice but to fire you because you have not kept up your cert as per sop.

The chief has tried to have quite a few other people do his dirty work for him like this but they all saw what was up.

Every officer that gets hit twice like this needs to fight the LEA board to the highest courts until their antics are ruled on, and case law is set like it is in every other civilized city in this country with a police union that has balls and a police chief that has morals. This happens nowhere else. It is illegal and against every labor law there is. But hey, cops are judged on "what it looks like" when everyone else in the United States is entitled to due process and what it really is. With the mentalities running things like this it is no mistaking that there is a serious deficiency in fortitude and courage in those running things. How do you look yourselves in the mirror? Your parents failed you.

I can't stand even referencing that uniform hanger as "chief" because he couldn't be the chief of a fairy boat. No command persence and totally pathetic in his pigpen uniform.

Anti-Regulator said...

At 7:02. Right you are and this way Ray doesn't have to worry about being called a racist.

Anonymous said...

No, he just has to worry about justifiably being called every other name in the book.

Anonymous said...

Get ready Jason. You'll be front and center in no time. Good luck with the just taking orders excuse.

Anonymous said...

Funny, I thought the guy was subdued and out by the 10th punch and the 4th kick. The rest of it was just cop sport on an already defenseless man who was not resisting. Good termination since the next time they lose their cool, they may beat a man to death.

Fanshawe st said...

Old neighbor on Fanshawe,
rooting for you John

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