The Piercing Truth

This is right from the dictionary and seems to describe Albuquerque, Berry and Schultz. Fascism (f ash ,izem) noun An authoritarian right wing system of government and/or social organization. (in general use) extreme right wing, authoritarian, chauvinistic and/or intolerant views or practices. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one group over another, national, ethnic, especially social strata or monetarily; a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach. Compliments of one of our Eyes

Nov 20, 2007

Getting Plucked

By now you're all probably tired of the seemingly endless Thanksgiving references. Sorry, but we just couldn't help ourselves because we've never seen a bigger turkey than Marty's scam-era program. We've talked extensively about the faults of the red light toll system, but what we haven't spent much time on is the speed vans (scam-vans) that are also a part of the Safe Traffic Operations Program.

In our opinion these vans are the least offensive of the STOP components. Unlike their fixed intersection counterparts, the vans have a police officer present who performs calibration at the beginning of the operation, at the end, run the internal radar check. At best the intersection scam-eras run only an internal check and as far as we know are never independently calibrated.

Before you think that The Eye has gone over the edge, the equipment calibration and the presence of a sworn police officer are the only two things we don't object to.

Like the scam-eras, the scam-vans issue a citation by mail complete with photographic "evidence" that your vehicle has become an evil-doer. There is no indication of who the driver is and no direct evidence that your vehicle has indeed violated the law and become a public nuisance.
(Sidebar)
The Village of Los Lunas is suing the City of Albuquerque in District Court because the scam-eras give no indication of who is actually driving the vehicle. Apparently, the Chief of the Los Lunas Police Department (or more specifically his scofflaw vehicle) received a scam-era citation and the village doesn't want to pay unless the City of Albuquerque proves who was driving the village vehicle. (KOB-TV read it here.)

Remember people don't run red lights - vehicles do! We can't be expected to know what our vehicles are up to when we're not driving them!
(End Sidebar)
When you receive a speed van citation (on behalf of your dastardly vehicle) you have the option of paying or challenging the citation in Marty-roo court; run by the same "hearing officers" that run the rest of the scam-era program and who are hired (and potentially fired) by the Almighty Alcalde.

We received information and supporting documentation about one of these speed van incidents just today. In this case, the owner of the unruly vehicle decided to challenge the citation and took the time to obtain the Speed Van Deployment Log of speed van number 1.

The log clearly shows the date, speed limit, start time, end time, and location of the speed van. It also contains the notes of the attending police officer. What's interesting is that the officer's notes include a list of license plates followed by statements like "(no violation) other vehicle trip camera" which indicates to us that this particular officer was paying attention to the operation of the equipment.

On this day back in June - June 19th to be exact - the mobile revenue generator... uh, scam-van started rolling in the dough at 0907 and stopped filling city coffers at 1213. In that 3 hour and 6 minute period, 5278 vehicles were assessed of which 1306 were tagged for violating the speed limit - that's 25% of all of the vehicles passing scam-van 1.

We know that the Albuquerque isn't exactly known for driving too slow, but 25% of all vehicles in a three hour period were exceeding the speed limit by 10 MPH or greater?! Come on!

Here's the problem... and what ultimately led to the dismissal of this scam-van citation. The van was parked and operating in an "improperly marked" zone. You see the scam-van was sitting in a 65 MPH zone and handing out citations as if it were a 55 MPH zone. Ooops!

The hearing officer down at Marty-roo court knew about the mistake and promptly dismissed the citation marking the Findings of Fact Decision and Order sheet as being dismissed by the APD officer. The "judge" went on to tell this particular defendant and his attorney that ALL of the citations from June 19th were being dismissed. (Go ahead and check your citations... we'll wait.)

When we heard this story it clicked with some other information that we've had for some time. Our Eyes told us a few months ago that an APD scam-van officer had reported to their supervisor that there was a problem with one of the vans that made all of the citations issued that day suspect. According to our Eyes the officer was told to send the citations anyway. Let's say that again... the officer was told to issue suspect citations despite his belief that they were inaccurate.

We don't know whether or not these two stories are actually the same story from two different sides. However, if the owner of the dastardly Dodge, Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Mercedes, BMW, etc. had simply paid the citation (which you are nearly threatened with your life to do in the citation letter) they would have never known about the scam-van problem June 19th and the city would have happily dumped their money into the general fund.

This is the problem when PROFIT gets involved in law enforcement. If only half (we'd bet it's more like 70% to 80%) of the citation recipients decided to simply pay, the city would have hauled in almost $100,000. And if the numbers from the recent audit are any indication $54,000 would have been considered "excess money" a.k.a. PROFIT. Not bad for 3 hours and 6 minutes on the freeway.

There can be little doubt that the Red Flex scam-era system is flawed, but we believe that knowingly allowing 1306 individuals to receive questionable citations could be considered fraud. If a city official, ranking officer, or hearing officer knew of the problem and did nothing to make sure that people who were slapped with fines in error received their money back, then we'd say that constitutes a conspiracy to defraud. We're no attorney here but doesn't that constitute a violation of the Racketeer Influenced and corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act? We're quite sure that it could become the basis for a class action lawsuit since we understand that there's one (yes another one) in the works.

One thing is sure - like Thursday's turkey we're all getting plucked. The only question is whether or not some city officials (mayor, chief, etc.) end up with their gooses cooked.

163 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is it. This will put this city's tit in the wringer for sure.
This needs to be investigated by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, not anyone in New Mexico.
The Rico Act is some serious shit.

Anonymous said...

No one of the 1300 + people were notified of this. Every one of those speed trap tickets were dismissed, but no one knows. They were sent out anyway and probably most sent in a payment. How many were refunded? I'm guessing NONE.

YOUR GOING DOWN BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Who wants to step up and comment in defense of this program now? Anyone?

Anonymous said...

City Council, Lawyers, Federal Agents, FBI;

DO SOMETHING!

Anonymous said...

Does this really surprise anyone,come on , wake up!!!

Anonymous said...

I just want my money back. :)

Anonymous said...

Remember, June 19th.
The day you got PL(F)UCKED!!

Anonymous said...

Yeah,I certainly got 'Butt Plucked'

Anonymous said...

Pluck you Marty!

Anonymous said...

This matter will certainly be looked into, I assure you.

CB

Anonymous said...

How much longer will this "Shake down"continue?
1306 citations X $150.00 is a lot of moola. If even 75% of those sent in the fines, that's $146,925.
No wonder they are fighting so hard to keep this and the red light scamera program in place. Just how much of this or the $10M collected is actually legitimate?

Anonymous said...

Go to any RedFlex web page and all you will see is "This page cannot be found"
Why is that?

Anonymous said...

I wonder how much money Bruce Higgins, President & CEO of RedFlex has contributed to Marty's campiagn.

Anonymous said...

'Bout the same amount as their attorney, Richard Casey

Anonymous said...

RICK SANDOVAL... How do we reach you?

Anonymous said...

Better question; how many shares of RedFlex stock does Marty & Ray have?
I understand that RedFlex stock has gone through the roof.

Anonymous said...

Go back to Scottsdale RAY BOY and take the cameras with you.

Anonymous said...

He's not going anywhere. Depositions and pretrials will take about a year. Marty will have resigned by then, leaving Ray holding this 500 pound bag of shit.

Anonymous said...

The sad part is that Marty is not going anywhere for two years! Udall is going to blow him out of the water for the senate race.

Marty has been crying that he will not let the politicians in Washinton DC play politics in NM. He also said that it's time for a local guy to go to Washington, as well as a hispanic.

Well isn't that something coming from a guy that does not pick a local guy/gal from many qualified applicant for Police Chief, twice!

In addition, he claims that a hispanic should represent NM. When has he ever helped out the hispanics other than to create a city where illegal aliens can prosper. Key word is illegal!

Marty is worthless, and his talk is nothing but hot air.

Voters, be aware of Marty Chavez, as he is full of BS!

HE WILL NOT HELP THE LOCAL GUY!

James said...

No way do 25% of Albuquerque drivers speed 10mph over the limit. I know because I'm behind their turtle asses every day. :)

On another completely unrelated note:

I saw this POSTING (http://thatsmyskull.blogspot.com/2007/11/eye-sees.html) and thought of eyeonabq. heheh.. "I AM THE EYE!" - anyhew...

I also wanted to know if THE EYE had seen the MSNBC story on John Hyde over the weekend, and what their thoughts were about it...

Anonymous said...

Send out 1306 refunds, or the lawyers will just take it from you.

Anonymous said...

Sadly, the money will probably be refunded now that the problem has been publicized. I say sadly because after they do, there will be no grounds on which to sue... at least where it regards this case.

Anonymous said...

If Mayor Chavez were aware of this injustice he would have put a stop to it. He has been misled by the people at APD!! He is trying to make things right, give him a chance!!!

Anonymous said...

Does that mean that Ray Ray is looking for a new job as we type?

Anonymous said...

Maybe. Anyone looking for a house to buy.

Anonymous said...

We are not refunding any money. Try and get it back. The records are destroyed. Marty knows it.
So there.

Anonymous said...

Mayor Chavez, we know for a fact that the APD 5th floor does not give you all the facts!

However, now that you're finding out what is true and correct, what do you plan to do!!!

Anonymous said...

"If Mayor Chavez were aware of this injustice he would have put a stop to it. He has been misled by the people at APD!! He is trying to make things right, give him a chance!!!"

Nice but I think his expectations were put forward: Make This Program Work. As usual no thought was put into it to make it work, only what he wanted to hear. Marty's culpable and so is APD if they sold it to him with skewed numbers...integrity out the window.

Anonymous said...

Leave shorty, I mean Marty alone; tomorrow is his birthday. All turkeys celebrate their birthday on Thanksgiving Day.

As anyone can see; the hunters are out. Whatch out Shorty.

Anonymous said...

Me and my little act of "civil disobedience" will continue on...didn't get any of my money from me then...and haven't been able to shake it out of me yet...

Anonymous said...

Too many people are reading this blog now. Something big will happen soon. This City and ultimately the taxpayers will pay for this administration's cavalier attitude. Afterall, it's not their money. Maybe it's about time we have honorable people in place that actually care where our money is spent, not down the drain with legal settlements that are sure to hit real soon. With that said, I hope there are other penalties besides financial. Like jail time for the corrupt that run this city.

Anonymous said...

yeah little marty or margret as he'd be known around the cellblock by then; in an orange jumpsuit with no teeth tied to the bottom bunk in the sante fe pen conjures a nice image...

Anonymous said...

Personally I'd like to thank the two officers that are assigned a walking beat downtown. Not one call was taken by them when I logged on this afternoon and yes OT was collected courtesy of the taxpayers! Well Done! I don't know what the city would do without them....

Anonymous said...

Someone with the media should pull the radio reports on this waste of taxpayer money. The command staff should look into this to see if it is true. Come on guys if you are getting paid DOUBLE TIME AND A HALF you can at least do your job.

Anonymous said...

Double time and a half????Are they on a new pay plan??

Anonymous said...

those two walking guys are worthless! they should have been forced off like the psa's. At least psa's earn their pay when theyre working. No one in the civilian world was working downtown why did they need to be down there?

Anonymous said...

who do the walking guys work for? who allowed them to waste our taxpayers money? name names of the walkers and their bosses!

Anonymous said...

who do the walking guys work for? who allowed them to waste our taxpayers money? name names of the walkers and their bosses!

Anonymous said...

Their boss would be RAY SCHULTZ!!!

Anonymous said...

No way less than 25% of Albuquerque drivers drive 10 or more mph over the speed limit. Under 10 mph over the speed limit, maybe.

Anonymous said...

all of you guys are pathetic. Now you are slamming your own officers, not brass, but officers. You are a bunch of whiners and are an embarrassment to all who wear the badge. grow up already.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the reason why they didn't take any calls, because their presence was a deterient. When someone is walking a beat, and they're noticed, maybe, just maybe, the assholes know they will be shot dead in the street like they should be. Then their low life family and drag their filthy carcass home and they can bury them in their stupid 'Baaa-Ski'.
Good job guys.

Anonymous said...

As a citizen I am glad to see officers stepping up and letting us know when officers are not doing their jobs and ripping off the taxpayers. Apparently the supervisors of these officer will not do anything. Good job to the APD officers who work hard and shame on those who take their check and do nothing.

Anonymous said...

Aren't the walking beat guys retired rehires?

Anonymous said...

My hat is off to the officers that leave the comfort of a $60K patrol car to walk a beat....It would do you all some good to get your donut laden lard asses out & burn some shoe leather ! Beat cops are performing some O'l fashioned police work that apparently worked, no calls for service speaks volumes....

Anonymous said...

Sadly, Most of us are too busy working our assess off, running call to call to call, to allow us to the opportunity to do something proactive like foot patrol. Before we present these folks with Officers Of The Year....how about we make those spots bid positions, as well as PP's overtime spot down at the PTC open to everyone instead of playing favorites!!!

Anonymous said...

Okay, we're getting off topic here. This particular blog is about how the City is charging and fining people in a speed trap that was illegal. So, back to where we were.
1300 + people or vehicles were illegally sited and the City issued tickets and probably 80% sent the $ in. The City did nothing to notice those about the mistake. We'll not say anything and hope it all goes away. Meanwhile we just collected about $156,000.00 we should'nt have.
But guess what? It will be returned. The attorneys are lining up for this battle. A battle that the citizens will win.

Anonymous said...

EVERYBODY!! Listen up. Anyone getting a speed violation on northbound I-25 at Ceasar Chavez exit on June 19th between 9AM and noon, stay tuned for further details on the pending law suit.

Anonymous said...

Like I said......

My hat is off to the officers that leave the comfort of a $60K patrol car to walk a beat....It would do you all some good to get your donut laden lard asses out & burn some shoe leather ! Beat cops are performing some O'l fashioned police work that apparently worked, no calls for service speaks volumes....

Anonymous said...

EVERYBODY!! Listen up. Anyone getting a speed violation on northbound I-25 at Ceasar Chavez exit on June 19th between 9AM and noon, stay tuned for further details on the pending law suit.

Better yet, HOLD YOUR BREATH !

Anonymous said...

This stuff about the walking beat is ridiculous. There are two distinct issues: Their position and their performance as officers.

They were allowed to “be on duty” and collect overtime (that’s 1 ½ times the pay rate) on a discretionary basis that’s reflective of poor policy and poor management. When they are on duty they cater to downtown merchants and rarely respond to calls. Do they save the “field” calls while on duty? Of course they do but saying that their mere presence contributed to cleaning up downtown “speaks volumes” where they didn’t have to take any calls is flat out uninformed if not simply stupid.

Since much of the general public was not at work yesterday there was nobody to cater to and shame on them for not stepping up and doing anything. Oh but wait, downtown was full of transients after the lunch feeding got out but where was the walking beat???? At home, probably where they were all day. Let’s be real, they were clear all day because they chose to do nothing.

As far as them being rehires, they are. Unfortunately they give rehires a bad name because there are many rehires that are worth more in weight than a current active duty.

Anonymous said...

You sound jealous.......Green is not a good color for you! Go blow that smoke up someone else's ass, I know better. I walked a beat downtown probably before you were born, rookie.

Like I said......

My hat is off to the officers that leave the comfort of a $60K patrol car to walk a beat....It would do you all some good to get your donut laden lard asses out & burn some shoe leather ! Beat cops are performing some O'l fashioned police work that apparently worked, no calls for service speaks volumes....

Anonymous said...

This blog makes me laugh. LOL But I am glad there is a forum for you guys "cops" to vent and let off some steam. The insight as to what goes on in the administration is an eye opener to say the least, and puts a scare into me as to how this city is ran. I like the insight on the mayor, I never did like him, now I have more reason not to.

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Anonymous said...

Firemen are the only ones that deserve a raise right? They work hard all day!

Anonymous said...

Right, before I was born...that's when what you went on strike. That was brilliant.

It's a simple concept: if you're going to show up for work, work. If you're not going to work, then stay home or do something else. They each earned over $440 that day and did nothing. Nice standard that you take your hat off too.

Anonymous said...

Have you seen the walking beat guys? I guess not, all they do is walk from one free meal to the next. Walking a beat is a good idea, but you have to walk, not sit in bar and eat.

Anonymous said...

It's a simple concept: if you're going to show up for work, work. If you're not going to work, then stay home or do something else. They each earned over $440 that day.........etc.

Okay, so lets apply the same standard to you. If I decide that you did not take enough calls or the right type of calls then you don't get paid for the day either? My guess is this has nothing to do with the foot beats but has everything to do with jealousy & probably the fact that you were not allowed to work the holiday & collect 2.5x pay... Correct?

Anonymous said...

Like I said......

My hat is off to the officers that leave the comfort of a $60K patrol car to walk a beat....It would do you all some good to get your donut laden lard asses out & burn some shoe leather ! Beat cops are performing some O'l fashioned police work that apparently worked, no calls for service speaks volumes....

Anonymous said...

Yeah, bravo, way to waste taxpayer money!!!! The public gets plucked again!!!

Anonymous said...

Back to the point, all anyone has to do is send Larry Barker or any other "investigative reporter" an email telling them about the 6/19 illegal citations. All these media types just love it when anyone from city government screws up, real or imagined. They can't wait to plaster it all over TV. I recall back in the day at APD when Barker and his cronies would show up just sniffing around for dirt anywhere they could find it.

Anonymous said...

I must have missed it somewhere along the line. A court of law has ruled that a bunch of red light camera tickets were issued illegally? Details please....

Anonymous said...

Larry Barker?? you have got to be kidding. He "investigates" if it DOES NOT STEP on any of his buddies toes. I know an officer who was involved in an extremely high profile case and was feeding Barker info until his BUDDY (who was in a high ranking federal position) asked him to not run the story. He dropped my friend and his partner like a hot potato. Somebody should ask Barker about little cruise to Alaska..with his boyfriend....He's not near as tough as he would want people to THINK he is...

Anonymous said...

Larry Barker bats from the other side of the plate?

Anonymous said...

We don't walk beats anymore, we ride Segways.

Anonymous said...

Segways? Cool, still beats sitting behind the wheel of a $60K car all day long, driving between donut shops.

Anonymous said...

The rehire program is a scam to keep numbers, the dept would now be under 900 without them. everyone knows that only a few guys like gene and bruce are dedicated to the team. the rest are making 90000 dollars a year to hide inside, the csa's too. I think my dues should be going to get rid of that program, but like always, the leadership is protecting these guys

Anonymous said...

Lots of mossbacks lurking around...get your Geritol ready...

Anonymous said...

Rookies.......

Anonymous said...

Without the rehire program APD's numbers would be in the high 700s. There are about 75 rehires on the dept, although the majority are in inside positions.

Anonymous said...

The big risk isn't that the rehire program harms younger officers (although it certainly does, younger officers would have received a much better raise in the past had it not been for rehires returning). Younger officers are also kept out of inside positions because they are given to rehires.

The bigger risk is that over time our pension is going to change because of it. Either the legislature will realize that cops don't need to retire after 20 years and they will change the program to have us work longer before retirement. This would be cheaper for city's and for the pension fund. Add to this that the City of Albuquerque has lobbied every year to NOT pay PERA contributions for retired rehires and you can see the funding issue. If Albuquerque ever got this passed our pensions would be in serious trouble.

The rehire program is a Pandora's Box that never should have been opened.

Anonymous said...

See today's Journal, Marty admitted that APD only has 998 officers. Now we know he counts the part time CSA's so when you remove them APD is below 950! They graduate 9 officers right before Christmas and are expecting almost 70 retirements by Jan 1, 2007! This city's police department is in crisis with it's staffing. They are not growing they are shrinking.

APOA you need to get these facts out to the media ASAP

Anonymous said...

Two up....without some of the rehires working those inside positions, who do you think would be sitting behind those desks? Officers that are currently in the field, thats who. Without the rehires, officers from the field would be transfered into the desk jobs, leaving the field even shorter......

Anonymous said...

There is only one way to solve this staffing crisis.......convert our PERA plan back to a 25 year 80%program. Once you do that, you can take a stab at creating a 5 year Drop Program to retain the officers that wish to stay longer....

Anonymous said...

3 posts up, read the Journal article again, the Mayor didn't say there were 998, the Journal did. Check out the quotation marks again. Get your facts straight.

Anonymous said...

Three posts up, your logic fits in well with today's selfish do it for me officers. Nope I am not talking about the younger officers, I am talking about the retired ones who told the chief they would only come back for a cushy inside job. Aren't you ashamed of yourself for trying to defend this?

Anonymous said...

Two posts up:

"Chávez and Albuquerque Police Chief Ray Schultz have pledged that the department would grow to 1,100 officers by year's end. As of Monday, the department had 998 officers.:

This is the quote from the Journal, now in your wonderful cartoon world, where do you think the Journal got it's numbers? From the Mayor and Chief!

Anonymous said...

To the poster who said to change our PERA plan back to a 25 yr 80% plan so we can implement a DROP program. Here is a better solution, kill the rehire program, pay entry level officers $21.07 and stop messing with our pensions.

Anonymous said...

Wrong again, go back and read the quote again grasshopper.

Anonymous said...

the magical numbers game,,,,

Anonymous said...

I still think the 25 year plan is the better way to go.

Anonymous said...

After viewing the data, Albuquerque Mayor Martin Chávez said APD's pay "stacks up pretty well."
"It's a mixed bag," he said. "You can't tell by starting salary how good a package is."

haahaahahahahahaahaah

Anonymous said...

Chávez and Albuquerque Police Chief Ray Schultz have pledged that the department would grow to 1,100 officers by year's end. As of Monday, the department had 998 officers.

lies lies lies!

Anonymous said...

I still think the 25 year plan is the better way to go.

Anonymous said...

5 posts up, Call TJ and ask him where he got the number 998, he will tell you it came from the police department. Which Marty and Ray are in charge of.

I know the truth hurts and you wish it weren't so, but it is better to deal with it than to be called lying weasels on the radio.

Anonymous said...

i wish i had a segway instead of a $60k car, id never take calls and eat alot. if they sent me a call id find my car attach it to the trunk and drive to the call. total time to get to an emergency call is now two hours. my family would sure feel safe with those numbers. good thing i have secret parking underground next to the mayors car, no traffic to deal with.

Anonymous said...

I not concerned about what some talk show flunkie thinks...Don't kid yourself.

Anonymous said...

i wish i had a segway instead of a $60k car, id never........


Your mother called, it's time for you to go home and wash up for supper.

Anonymous said...

There is only one way to solve this staffing crisis.......convert our PERA plan back to a 25 year 80%program. Once you do that, you can take a stab at creating a 5 year Drop Program to retain the officers that wish to stay longer....

Anonymous said...

I think you are living in cartoon land.

By the way how many APD cops do you think Albuquerque has? How many of those are currently under investigation? How many of those are part timers? How many will be retiring January 1, 2007. I would bet by that date APD is closer to 900 than to 1100. Marty and Ray can't deliver on this promise because of their mismanagement of APD. They own this. I can't wait to hear their spin.

And you are concerned with a program that reaches around 100,000 voters everyday, if you're not you're a fool.

Mr. Wolf said...

Right, that's why the calls get stacked with hacks whenever there's a ranting involving a "sensative" topic.

Anonymous said...

I'm not concerned with what a talk show does or says. It has no impact on my life. I don't waste my time listening to the talking heads, I look into things for myself and form an opinion.

Barbarossa said...

he said. "You can't tell by starting salary how good a package is."-- Well actually Marty, you can.

In today's society we are getting more and more young folks with degrees plus military service (in a war zone). These kids may want to go into public service but they sure have checked the internet and run the numbers. They know what cities pay the best as well as which ones have better living conditions and crime rates. So if you want a mediocre salary in a high crime mid-sized city you end up here. When I retired a few years ago more than half my troops had at least a BS/BA from somewhere plus loads of other training on their resumes. These same guys are eligible for any Federal L.E. job out there, from park ranger to Border patrol to the FBI... and they all start in a GS level far above 20 bucks an hour. This leaves us with folks who are tied to the city already (family ties) or a few who cant get on at a bigger agency because they have been turned down already. Think this department hasnt come down in the applicants estimation? Well in the early 80s we were getting over 700 applicants for a class of 40 to 50 cadets... now they are getting enough to shake out what, 9 worthy ones? We now have a self fulfilling prohecy of bad media from crappy selections (Maes, Chavez et.al.) at the very time in history that we need voters to step up and help the dept. pay more money. This is exactly the scenario that Detroit, New Orleans and Camden went through and they are all places none of you would like to work or to live except behind walls. Add to that the "sanctuary city" and other unpopular ideas (Red light cams.) and the average joe in this town is about as unlikely as ever to pony up more dough for cops. Best thing for all right now is stop the infighting and work like Santa's elves on getting a bunch of good press real quick!

Anonymous said...

Barbarossa-I don't know who you are but I think you're amazing! That was so well put without any of the usual profanity we've come to expect from those who post here. You should send your above post to the newspaper.

Anonymous said...

I don't think that the Journal likes the Cowboys.

Anonymous said...

But thanks for the complement anyway...

Anonymous said...

Don't you know who Barbarossa was? A Nazi war planner. He planned the invasion of the Nazi's into the Soviet Union.

Anonymous said...

barbarossa is a fricken genius! well put!

Anonymous said...

That's it! You read it here folks, Barbarossa is a genius! Beacuse you read it here, must make it true. That qualifies him for a leadership position at APD, hire him on today. Yipee,,,,,,,Problem solved. Let's hope he is a rehire.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have a good recipe for oatmeal cookies that I can use for the Holidays? Please post, Thanks.

Mr. Wolf said...

Actually, "Barbarossa" was the name of the operation whereby the Nazi's invaded the Soviet Union.
If I'm correct Barbarossa was the first roman emperor that was "King" of Germany.

Anonymous said...

Cookie dude...go to epicurious.com and you'll get all that you want and more!!!

Anonymous said...

There is only one way to solve this staffing crisis.......convert our PERA plan back to a 25 year 80%program. The Legislature needs to look into this issue soon. Mark B,,,, I mean "Eye" can you get this going?

Anonymous said...

See, just like I said a Nazi War Planner.....EEEeeeks, run, hide the kids.

Anonymous said...

How bout them Cowboys?

Anonymous said...

Go Packers....

Anonymous said...

Cheeseheads here? I don't like cheese....It gives me gas

Anonymous said...

Buuurrrp,,,,,,excuse me.

Anonymous said...

Changing PERA to a 25 year plan would be a disaster for all the new officers coming on.

Anonymous said...

Remember when it comes to counting the numbers, by city budget standard, the only officers that are allowed to be counted toward the 1100 are full time, sworn officers.

Part timers don't count toward the 1100.

I would bet that by January 1, 2007 APD is down to 900 full time sworn officers.

Anonymous said...

bet Larry Barker likes the Cowboys..all of em!

Anonymous said...

Just another one of Marty's and Rays lemmings trying to cloak the issue.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have a good recipe for oatmeal cookies that I can use for the Holidays? Please post, Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Part Time employees don't count for budget purposes? If so, how do they budget for their payroll? Better check that out again, I think you are wrong...

Anonymous said...

Changing PERA to a 25 year plan would be best for all the new officers coming on.

Anonymous said...

two posts up, review the city budget, as approved by the council, for the police department and you will see the language 1100 full time sworn officers. Part time officers are in the budget but paid from a different fund. The reason the budget states 1100 full tome sworn is because full time officers get all benefits, that means the city has to set aside money for health insurance, PERA, etc. Part timers get no benefits so they are paid out of another fund.

It is all online if you want to look it up. Go to www.cabq.gov and research city budget. I linked through the council to get to it.

Anonymous said...

Just how would going to a 25 year plan be better for new officers? This is some logic I have to see.

Anonymous said...

So PT Officers are sworn, carry guns & badges & arrest powers?

Anonymous said...

yes but they are not full time as per city budget. That is why the only number that is being talked about is the 1100 full time officers.

Think of it this way, how many part time officers drive in police cars and take calls for service as uniformed patrol. ZERO That is why you can't count part timers in the numbers.

Anonymous said...

Part time officers have always been counted by APD administration as part of the full force.
They even used to count Nick bakas. Everyone that carried a badge and a gun full or part time was counted. Don't let them full you!

Anonymous said...

Could you guys believe that Mayor's statement that APD's salaries are fine and that we have fared the best under his administration!

What a crock of shit!

APOA President Olivas, slam that bonehead and tell everyone how bad we have done under Mayor Marty!

Anonymous said...

Remember, Marty is an attorney, not an economist. When he sees that people are leaving he thinks that's a good thing!!!

Anonymous said...

So if PT Officers carry a gun & badge and can arrest people but get fewer benefits, why shouldn't the city look at hiring a couple hundred PT Officers to fill the void? Seems like you get the same people at 1/2 the cost....

Anonymous said...

Sure that is a great idea, a whole police force of part time people. Now how would you schedule coverage for shifts and days off?

The city requires, as it should, a full time police force.

Anonymous said...

No, all I got is just pictures of cookies speeding thru red-lights.

The city tries to tell me they're nuisances, but I dunno.

Are you their owner?

Are you a public nuisance?

Anonymous said...

"So PT Officers are sworn, carry guns & badges & arrest powers?"

Most of them were arresting crooks while you were still learning how to wipe your ass!

Anonymous said...

Most of them were arresting crooks.....Really? I started arresting crooks in this town in 1978 how about you?

Anonymous said...

Sure that is a great idea, a whole police force............

Who said anything about a whole police force. What I was suggesting was a couple of hundred part timers to help out in the field with calls for service. That is the objective here right? A safer city & calls for service? or are you one of those officers that just like to bitch?

Anonymous said...

The city can't even get a filled department with full time officers, who is going to work part-time with no benefits? Come on!

Anonymous said...

I think you would be shocked how many retired officers would love to work part time.

Anonymous said...

I'm still waiting....When did you start wiping your ass as opposed to arresting crooks?

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have a good recipe for oatmeal cookies that I can use for the Holidays? Please post, Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Ive got one, Its called
"UPYOURWIFESTWATOATMEALRAISE"
shut the hell up you fag

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have a good recipe for banana nut bread that I can use for the Holidays? Please post, Thanks.

Anonymous said...

If any of the part time rehires would like to work the field ( I believe there are about 70 of them, then by all means, tomorrow when you go to work show up in uniform and notify your chain you will be answering calls. You and I both know that isn't going to happen. Instead of trying to fix the manning crisis with a band aide approach, the management of this city needs to find a way to hire full time officers like they are supposed too. Not all police departments are having a manning problem. Albuquerque needs leaders who can honestly address the problem, put aside special interests lobbist (retired folks), pay a high wage a for entry officers, give officers at 20 years a substantial hourly increase so it would benefit them not to retire and start working on a solution instead of stop gap measures.

Anonymous said...

And I am not bitching, I am tired of seeing my department mismanaged and it is time to start thinking of the future and fix these problems the right way. Ever since I came on APD has been in a hiring crisis, enough is enough.

The dumbest thing APD has done with hiring is to count on retired rehires. APD has no control over this program, the legislature could kill it every year. Who would allow a large part of their staffing to be governed outside of their control? This is just plan dumb. What happens if January 2008 the legislature and governor sign a measure to immediately kill the rehire program July 1? What would Ray and Marty do then? Because all the rehires are going to walk and APD will be in even more crisis. Nope you don't hedge your bets on things you don't control and the rehire program is just that.

Anonymous said...

"The dumbest thing APD has done with hiring is to count on retired rehires. APD has no control over this program, the legislature could kill it every year."

Be gratefulful that you have the rehires to provide needed backup. They are not keeping you from earning more money you greedy bastards, they are filling a void. Stop shitting on your fellow officers, have some decency stop this whining like a petty cry baby that makes our department look bad.

Anonymous said...

God bless John Walsh...traitor.

Anonymous said...

"Be gratefulful that you have the rehires to provide needed backup. They are not keeping you from earning more money you greedy bastards, they are filling a void. Stop shitting on your fellow officers, have some decency stop this whining like a petty cry baby that makes our department look bad."

It never ceases to amaze me how the retired rehires act when they are brought up. I am not slamming the rehires, I am saying that APD and the City have no control over this program. The legislature controls it and can stop it any given year. That is not a good way to manage your manpower. I could care less about rehires themselves. If they want to believe they are saving the city so be it. The program itself is not under Ray and Marty's control and that is bad management.

Anonymous said...

If it the retired rehires would show solidarity with the younger officers, we would not be stuck at $19 an hour for the last 6 years. The city would have been forced to give us a big pay raise, but instead you retired guys showed us no support. You came back for $21.07 while new officers are stuck at $19. Then on top of that most of you came back to closet desk jobs. I have no sympathy for you. I owe you nothing and I expect nothing from you. You are not in line with your brother officers, you are only in line with your own greed.

Anonymous said...

"If it the retired rehires would show solidarity with the younger officers, we would not be stuck at $19 an hour for the last 6 years."

Are you blind? It's hard to motivate solidarity when offficers bad mouth all the rehires for all their problems here in this website.

Anonymous said...

"Most of them were arresting crooks.....Really? I started arresting crooks in this town in 1978 how about you?"

Yeah, but now you wear diapers

Anonymous said...

"Then on top of that most of you came back to closet desk jobs. I have no sympathy for you. I owe you nothing and I expect nothing from you. You are not in line with your brother officers, you are only in line with your own greed."

Yes Badway, mouthing the same song again. I thought you were leaving APD? Got rejected again?

Anonymous said...

Funny how when faced with the facts all the retired guys can do is either resort to personal attacks or say how they have been cops since Jesus walked the earth. Like that really means anything.

As for solidarity, don't blame the younger guys or this website for your problems. No one forced you to come back and you all knew the that we have not gotten across the board raises in 8 years. You made the decision so live with it. But don't try to tell me I owe you anything. All I owe you is good 82 . I just wish you guys would have 82'd us when we needed it for pay raises.

Anonymous said...

Pay raises for cops!!!! NOW!!! Get rid of Marty ASAP and Ray will be gone then, too!!!!

RAISES FOR COPS NOW OR THEY'LL ALL GO TO LAS VEGAS OR COLORADO!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Funny how the rehires that assert themselves as "rehires" are the same one's that never had any respect to begin with. Just like sleepy and dopey downtown they were worthless then and they haven't much changed either. The rest that don't define themselves as "rehires" are just that...cops like the rest of us.

By the way, Ron, well done last night--thank you.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Ron too, now stop commenting here and get back to work on getting us a raise. You paid your dues protecting the mayor now break it off in his ass!

Anonymous said...

John is right to say everythings great at apd look at the sweet deal he has,,,u think he speaks for the real officers? NOT!

Anonymous said...

I did not like that awful John Walsh after I saw him on tv last night. How much money does that wretched man make?

Anonymous said...

Walsh makes $93,000. plus his APD retirement.

Schultz takes care of his boys only, not his officers!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have a good recipe for oatmeal cookies that I can use for the Holidays? Please post, Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I think Walsh has a good receipe

Anonymous said...

Nah, he works over at PD where all the kookies are. I',m looking for a cookie recipe....

Anonymous said...

I dont know you Mr. walsh, but who exactly are you speaking for? You certainly proved you are not supporting, I have checked this out for a few months now, Im actually glad I get to hide the identity cause I know you would make me pay for it. I would never post but I thought you should know, I know you dont care what cops think anyway...........

Anonymous said...

Schultz and his administration don't care about anything, but THEIR PAYCHECKS!


They don't care about the officers.

Anonymous said...

true true

Anonymous said...

I'm taking my sand bucket and toys and am going home......Waaaaaa, The Chief does not like me, I'm gonna cry....

Anonymous said...

The APD chief is an ass to everyone! He is arrogant to those that can't give him anything.

Other agencies think he is a prick as well, no one likes him. Well maybe BCSO Sal, the under sherrif. Sal thinks Ray's a good guy. However, BCSO officers think Ray is an arrogant prick!

Anonymous said...

We at AFD think your chief is an idiot. Most of our administrative staff feel the same!

He treats your officers like crap, and has no respect for them!!

Well, he really does not respect anybody!

Very poor leadership skills.

Hang in there, he and his boys will be gone soon.

Anonymous said...

I wish APD's admin had half the balls as AFD admin! u guys have it made over there,,,

Anonymous said...

I wish AFD's admin had half the balls as APD admin! u guys have it made over there,,,

Anonymous said...

Darren likes him, too!!

James said...

I think an impeachment for Mr chavez And Mr Richardson is very deserveing of a couple , Of self centered greedy thieves , I don,t think this poor state or city will last their full term!!!!!