The Piercing Truth

This is right from the dictionary and seems to describe Albuquerque, Berry and Schultz. Fascism (f ash ,izem) noun An authoritarian right wing system of government and/or social organization. (in general use) extreme right wing, authoritarian, chauvinistic and/or intolerant views or practices. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one group over another, national, ethnic, especially social strata or monetarily; a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach. Compliments of one of our Eyes

Jan 17, 2012

Railroaded Out By Chief Schultz

The Eye received the following from Officer Alfred R. Walck. It is apparently his letter of resignation to Chief Schultz. The Eye finds it so "Schultz like" to railroad a very seasoned officer out of the department while also attempting to strip him of his dignity. This is no surprise, as this is definitely not the first time that Chief Schultz acts on emotion and not logic or professionalism.

Dear Chief Schultz:

I write to advise you directly that I am retiring in lieu of further action against me. It is my deeply held opinion that the proposed termination gave me no option but to retire to protect myself and my family from further action against me. My retirement will be effective November 14, 2011.

Although our professional relationship has been tumultuous and difficult, I never was your enemy, although you clearly believed differently. I disagreed with many of your decisions, but, in all fairness, I was hardly unique.

You proposed to terminate me for reasons that are inconsistent with the actual events. In that particular incident, I was dispatched to a report of burglary, with the suspects attempting to gain entrance into a medical facility while staff was inside the facility. The report showed that two suspects were attempting to batter their way in, and members of the public were directly at risk. Under those circumstances, making the victims safe is, as always, the highest priority, and I did so. My back-up arrived at about the same time, and the initial scene was made safe.

By the time we arrived, however, the suspects had fled in two different directions. I was not directly involved in the search (either by way of coordination or undertaking the search) for the suspects, because events were moving quickly, and other officers immediately undertook those. Indeed, although I was initially dispatched as primary to the scene, two other officers, including a sergeant, declared that they were primary. Neither the officer nor the sergeant was from a specialized squad; neither of them clarified their declaration or suggested that claiming primary status was in error. Instead, at the scenes of the arrests, those officers were in charge, not me, and no one, other than Internal Affairs and you, seem confused about it.

While my back-up and I continued to secure the scene as would be customary, a high-priority domestic violence call came in. Officer Barnard was dispatched first, and a back-up unit was ordered. Both Officer Barnard and I were cleared from the scene by our sergeant because the domestic violence call was a high priority call, and the medical facility was entirely secure. Officer Barnard and I directly responded to that call and it was resolved without difficulty. It is depressing beyond words that I would lose my job for that, but I would rather lose my job knowing that I did mine, than the alternatives.

As best can be determined, no one believed that I was primary officer at the scene at the time we were dispatched to the domestic violence call. Dispatch showed other officers as primary, but I was investigated. Because the suspects had fled (one was arrested, suffering injuries in the process, and another was arrested after breaking into another building), air support was called in, and officers, including at least one sergeant, were scattered around the area, taking the incident in hand. I was not directly involved in any of their activities; I have no command authority over those officers and those officers were not even within my immediate chain of command.

This was primarily why, when a priority domestic call came in, and back up was required by dispatch, two officers, including me, responded. Scott Barnard and I both cleared the departure from the scene with our sergeant who approved our leaving the scene. If I was primary- and by that time, two other officers had taken primary and declared so to dispatch-this would not have made sense. With a more thorough, and less targeted investigation, you would have learned that other officers were on the scene (including command staff), and were, in fact, operating as primary officers. None of them were proposed to be terminated by me.

Officers in APD have long known that Internal Affairs runs at your command. The fact that I was investigated (and no one else) is hardly shocking. No doubt you blame me for Darren White's departure from the City. Although you blame me, the blame instead, belongs on him for crossing the line between personal interest and law enforcement and failing to recognize the inherent conflict of interest that comes from his relationship with Mrs. White and his position with the City and his appearance on an accident scene. Mr. White did what no other husband of an accident victim would be allowed to do, and he did so by virtue of his position.

Because I had legitimate concerns about Mrs. White's medical condition, I permitted him to remove her, but of course, my options were, in truth, to arrest him (and perform a probably cause exam) or to allow him to remove her as he clearly expressed he intended to do, and to continue my investigation once she and he were gone, lights and sirens flashing. With his job title, I could hardly deny him his demands. Of course, you forcing me into retirement prevents me from completing that investigation and referring charges if they were appropriate under the facts.

From before the Darren White incident and severely so afterward, I have been the victim of retaliation, harassment and demeaning conduct by officers that report to you directly. I have written you to put you on notice of the incidents and to request your held, and, to my knowledge, never once did you intervene. As best I can determine, you not only approved of the conduct, but you encouraged it at least tacitly. The conduct created a hostile work environment, contrary to the standard operating procedures of APD.

Once you advised in your letter that you intended to fire me, I had no choice. I have earned my service time, and I have earned the leave time I accumulated, over decades-nearly four- of serving as a law enforcement officer in this State. I could not afford to lose those hard earned hours.

I retire, and hereby give you notice of the same.

Officer Alfred R. Walck.

66 comments:

Anonymous said...

My best to you Al I hope you are better. I agree Schultz forces people into situations and if you don't stand up to him he will walk all over them. I say fu(& you Schultz.

Anonymous said...

GOOD RIDDANCE AL! Now enjoy your retirement gracefully and live out your golden years proudly.

Anonymous said...

The next question is: will Al Walck really go peacifully into the night or will he file a wrongful termination lawsuite against Schultz as he has theatened in the past? Will a jury ever know what Darren White did when he showed up and wisked his wife away with sirens blazing? And why is Darren gone and Schultz still around? Remember Schultz saying there was "no probable cause" to make an arrest? And Mayor Berry watching from the sidelines and looking small and ineffective while Rob Perry defended Darren White.

Anonymous said...

Rumor is there is a petition going around for shultz to be removed from the law enforcement board after he was found of violating another officers civil rights. Where do I sign up?

Anonymous said...

I am personally happy to see this weak officer gone! Do your job and protect us instead of covering your hide with intolerable letters.

Anonymous said...

I Bet the APD computer wannbee's, hacked the hell out of Al's laptop. Watch your ass boy's! Be ADVISED; the Ipad is quite the tattle tale, when loaded with the RAY-RAT-APP!

Anonymous said...

Personal animus is grounds for gaining the access to hold someone personably liable. That means if you can prove that some creep was motivated by a personal issue against the plaintiff, the defendant can be held personably liable. Seems that mr Walck may have something here. Good luck suing this crooked bastards balls off.

And as far as removing Schultz from that board, his testimony anywhere should be worthless. Lies lies lies.
Guilty in court. Harrassment. Violating due process and the rights of employees. Personally attacking employees. The list goes on.

Anonymous said...

There you go attacking a cop who has the balls to stand up to Schultz unlike the majority of you (or should I say all). It's no wonder Shultz remains at the helm. You can't even stand behind each other. How do you rely on one another at a crime scene. As a citizen I would be more afraid of you going after each other than doing your job. Al should have been afraid of any one of you being called as his back-up. I hope you sue and win big Al. Good luck in your retirement - enjoy! Thanks for your years of service. I'm guessing you didn't spend your time beating up on civilians (just because you could) unlike many of the cops who have been on this blog.

Anonymous said...

What a disgrace. Google the APD and you get a boat load of all the crap the chief and company have done to this department. People from across the entire country aren't asking what's up with the officers here. They are asking what the hell kind of person is the chief of police and how the hell has he been able to get away with his behavior without being fired?

Maybe after the next law suit.
Or the next one.
Or maybe the next.
How many guilty verdicts does it take to prove someone incompetent and worthless as far as credibility is concerned?

Anonymous said...

One person may not be able to take down Shultz but if several people band together it can happen. But the pieces together and let everyone see who shultz really is.

Anonymous said...

You would think the opposite would have happened where Schultz would have set a tone to prevent retaliation and a hostile work environment, especially after White resigned under too much scrutiny. The public wasn't scrutinizing Officer Walck, but Darren White's behavior. The public caused White to retire, but the public didn't cause Officer Walck to retire. Officer Walck now has the full support of the public in this forced retirement. Maybe, Officer Walck can go into Public Relations.

Anonymous said...

Another illiterate APD cop whining about stuff? Awesome. I'm beginning to sympathize with Schultz...

Anonymous said...

Al hope your feeling better. Hang in there.......

Anonymous said...

At this point I am no fan of Ray Schultz. Neither am I a fan of Al Walck, I have found him to be lazy and always working to file a lawsuit against the APD and City. It was time for Walck to go. If he in fact was innocent he should have fought the charges.

As for the Chief, he should never have been retained espeically after he openly backed M.Chavez. The Mayor made a hugh mistake by hiring the publicity hound Darren who then pushed for the Chief's retention. Face it the mayor is too weak to fire Schultz and as a result the APD and AFD along with others will make his reelection bid difficult at best. So, until the next election APD will continue to have personnel issues and Ray will continue to cost the City big in lawsuits lost or settled.

Anonymous said...

to the poster at 8:05: Obviously you don't know Al and you are baseing your opinions on rumors only. Al was not lazy he took his calls wrote his reports and got his tickets just like every other field Officer. You can't tell me every Officer on this dept is not looking for an easy lawsuit for cash. Gee we sue the department for senority we sue for promotional process we sue for anything that will get you cash plain and simple.

Anonymous said...

So what is going on with In specter general doing an investigation Darren and Ray in reference to brad. Word is there are some recordings and supposedly in the recoordings Darren is busted lying in ref to ahresfelds trial.

S. SGT. Paul J. Heh (RET ) said...

I go and see Al almost everyday. Al is at Health South RM 130. I am sure he would love to see you. Al is doing well but it will be a long recovery. It is ashame how a veteran officer of 38 plus years has been treated. Al has shown me proof that he did nothing wrong and his family is handling matters with his attorney. It really doesn't matter if you like Al or not the same that happened to him can happen to you. You may think about that when all of the sudden you are in he cross hairs of the power to be. The chief and company do what they do because they can. Then the courts overturn it. But Al is a prime example of what that stress causes.

Anonymous said...

Paul-You are so right especially your last two sentences. Chief does what he wants because he can and when you do stand up to him he spreads rumors to back himself up. People think words that come from his mouth are the truth when they are not so don't believe anything lousy chif has to say if you can't verify it. His statements are very easy to verify Officers would rather believe the juicy gossip.

Anonymous said...

Al, I along with others have had my differences with you. That was in the past my friend. I pray for a speedy recovery for you and a prosperous retirement.

Anonymous said...

Rather than email this directly to you, I want to send this link to a very interesting blog. There is one blogger, "When does it end" who has many posts detailing police corruption for many years. There was alot of research done, and most of these incidents I can recall vividly.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/canada-de-los-alamos-nm/TI6014F8SOAIOGIBH/p2

A pale horse coming said...

www.thefreedictionary.com/malfeasance
mal·fea·sance (m l-f z ns). n. Misconduct or wrongdoing, especially by a public official.
Malfeasance - Malfeasance in office - Malfeasance financial definition of ...

This place makes me sick!

Another definition: Schnadenfreude.....


dictionary.reference.com/.../schadenfreude
... Spelled[shahd-n-froi-duh] Show IPA. noun. satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else's misfortune.

This is what they are about!
Not one ounce of common human decency.
Hopefully karma and justice wreaks havoc on these scum who do this to their employees. When you have this much noise being made about one individual it cant be unfounded.

My best wishes to Al and his family. The man served 38 years. That alone disqualifies any shit talking idiot from running their mouth. The man did his time. Give him the respect and dignity he deserves. It is a disgrace that he has to end his career in the hospital.

Anonymous said...

To the poster of 1-19 6:46

I know Al all to well but do wish him a speedy recovery.

Anonymous said...

The inspector general, Nefti, is laughing his ass off about what a psycho Shawn Bryant is, hahaha!

S.Sgt. Paul J. Heh ( Ret.) said...

Just wanted to let everyone know that City Councilmen Ken Sanchez called Al at Health South to wish him a speedy recovery. Al does not know Councilmen Sanchez but it really picked Al's spirits up. Thank you Councilmen Sanchez it shows you really care about the City Employees.

Anonymous said...

I went to that website "topix" and read all the dirt on law enforcement in NM. I used to feel really sorry for Brad Ahrensfield for what happened to him, but after reading all the MEAN things he did to citizens of Albuquerque I realize it's just KARMA. Don't know if the punk Andrew LeHockey is still around sicking his dog on any one he can, but I believe KARMA will catch up with him too. APD is CORRUPT plain and simple. It starts with the top and filters down to a lot of bad apples at the bottom. Too bad for the citizens. I predict many more lawsuits and that topix site just shows you which names pop up over and over again. Coincidence - I think not.

Jo Maurer said...

To: Paul Heh,

I would suggest that you begin a petition drive to recall the mayor. I am sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that we could gather enough signature to force a recall.

Karl Rovewannabe said...

@ January 21, 2012 10:21:00 AM MST

A recall election at this point is a waste of time, effort, and resources.

The most logical step is to convince another Republican to run in the 2013 Mayoral race preferably someone with institutional awareness and knowledge of Public Safety, City of Albuquerque departments/infrastructure, understanding of the City Councils role. It has to be another Republican who is willing to go rogue without the Bernalillo County GOP support thus splitting the 'R' vote or at least giving Republican voters another option other than the incumbent. Remember Republicans typicaly are loyal voters if presented with the option of DEM vs. Republican however, if presented with the option of 2 Republicans vs. 1 Democrat on the same ticket the chances of the Democrat winning becomes greater based purely on registered voters (DEMS vs. REPUBS)numbers alone. Of course this only holds true in the non-partisan, taxpayer funded election, that has no primary election for the Mayor of Albuquerque.

The second option of which, I've heard a few have been formed and are currently being funded is the formation of PACs. Regardless of ones opinion on super pacs and Citizens United vs. The United States this can and will be used in the next Mayoral election.

The path going foreward is, 1.) To entice a Republican to run.

2.) The utilization of PACs. For the messaging for and against an opponent.

Anonymous said...

I am a registered republican, and I endorse the above post. This mayor needs to go. The problems in this administration cross all political positions, and affect everyone in a negative way.

Anonymous said...

Take a look at Sundays paper. Richardson isn't the only person that there are recordings on. Shultz, White and others.

Anonymous said...

To Karl Rovewannabe: Why run a Republican with the credentials you listed just for the purpose of loosing or keeping Berry from winning? Just back a candidate with institutional knowledge and awarness of Public Sefety, City departments/infrastructure and who has an understanding of the city council and government and who can promote the City. We need a candidate who will commit and fire Schultz, Breen, Rob Perry and the entire Berry Administration. A candidate who appeals to both Democrats and Republicans and who will hold Berry accountable for his lack of leadership and poor management and for giving us the political hacks and likes of Darren White, TJ Wilham, Chrissy Ramerez, Danna Gardner, Lou Hoffman, Tito Madrid, John Chavez, Robin Delozier Otten, Sal Burrogela, Allen Banks, Beth Paez and all the rest of the Berry political hack Directors. Berry is going to campaign for re-election on the platform that he has been a good steward of the city finanaces, that he has balanced the City budget without a tax increases or lay offs and that he has brought down crime. Someone will need to get in his face and challenge him on these issues and what he has brought or not brought to the City. To beat him, he must be discredited and shown to be the fool he is and nothing more than a care taker Mayor that has accomplished absolutely nothing. We need a Mayor that genuinely understands Albuquerque and who can make government work for the average citizen and not just a politcal party. There are good people out there, and they sure hell are NOT on the City Council.

Anonymous said...

Eye, Your writing is middle school level (at best), infrequent (kiss of death for blogs) and (here's the killer) BORING. It's all about the old burnouts who got lazy and fat doing nothing for a helluva lot of overtime and are pissy because things have changed.

Do us all a favor and STFUP.

Anonymous said...

Nefti who? The IG? What the heck is an IG? LOL. Talk about a joke

Anonymous said...

Agreed- Berry is a SPINELESS COWARD!!!!

But, Walck- if you hadn't been a lazy Fu@k you would have called in a DRE on the White accident! You're saying you were scared of Darren? What a pu$$y! And you were gonna 'follow up' AFTER the accident? How exactly did you propose to do that?? That's a new one! Loser!!!!

Anonymous said...

I agree with the above post, @ 11:41. He should have called a DRE they are on call duh! If Al really wanted this to be done right he would have done it right. He obviously knew nothing about how to do his job correctly when it came to dealing with DUI's.

Anonymous said...

The APD and ABQ should celebrate that Alfred Walck the lazy cop has finally resigned. This guy has cost the city hundreds of thousands of dollars over his career in legal/settlement costs and is a poor excuse for a law enforcement office.

Anonymous said...

Albert Walck is no victim...is this not the guy who is the most litigated officer in the history of the APD. He should have never been hired and would have never made it to retirement without union protection on several occasions. No comment, or talk to my attorney was all this trouble making piece of crap could say about the Darren incident. What a waste of city funds and tax payer dollars paying for the retirement benefits of Alfred R Walck!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

To the last two posts....
Hey chief.... crawl back under that rock with the rest of the 5th floor salamanders, will ya. Al has more honor than the entire 5th floor.

Anonymous said...

Like or dislike Walck the citizens just see you tearing each other up. There's no honor there. If you have nothing good to say then say nothing.

Anonymous said...

You couldn't Walck a foot in his shoes, so quit bashing the guy. You lowlife scum bags. I am figuring that the few doing this are the nutless bastards who would see him every day yet never utter a word to his face. Punks. You wouldn't have half the balls to get through what that guy did.

Anonymous said...

The truth is there is not much difference character wise between the Chief and Alfred Walck. No honor with either man period! Walck got was due him, and the same will come to the Chief in time!!!

Anonymous said...

Like the chief actually has time to read and post on the eye, seriously? Just because the people who disliked Al outnumber the people who liked him doesnt mean you have to blame the chief. Al did APD a big favor by "retiring". Valle Con Dios as he would say.

Anonymous said...

LOL...this is no 5th floor type, or Chief Shultz supporter here. The Eye is correct Chief Shultz needs to go, but one of the few things he has done right on his watch was to fire Walck, athough much too late. There is no honor in either Alfred Walck, or his ex-con/felon brother Johnny.

The only difference between Johnny and Albert is that Albert is a little more clever and somehow managed to hide behind a badge for many years. The guy was suspended numerous times as an officer and his son and ex-wife passed on much to early, god rest their souls. Although the taxpayers have to pick up the tab for his pension and his many lawsuits, the citizens will relax knowing that another bad cop is no longer with the APD.

Anonymous said...

For the Walck backers, I suggest they pull up this guy in RateMyCop.com and perhaps they will understand that the community just doesn't share the same love for him. I feel that for most of us wish him to get well, and then move somewhere else. He used The Eye to get back at Chief Schultz for firing him by publishing his retirement letter, and that is so Walck like, but those of us that would like to see the Chief fired also, and know something about the APD and Albert, know he is by no means the victim that he portrays himself to be.

Anonymous said...

Now that Berry has lost his spokesperson, he has to give his own interviews (very scarey) I heard him on KOB the other day and I could NOT, NOT, believe what I was looking at and what I was hearing. He is incapable of putting a structured sentence together, he made no sense, he mis-referred to a certain department, he stuttered, and jerked his eyes back and forth....and his FACE!!! OMG: The bags under his eyes, you could pack them for your next trip to Arruba! Wonder if this guy broke into an evidence locker did some meth!

Anonymous said...

The golden kingdom of pompus asses is coming to an end. You can see the stress in their faces. Every one of the dirty ones is wearing their guilt right on their mugs.

Anonymous said...

Ratemycop!?!?! Yeah that is a true objective survey of 34s. Lmfao. But don't worry, the new POC guidelines proposed by Berry allow 3rd party complaints so stuff like ratemycop will become valid!

Anonymous said...

Funny how you all condemn Al Walck, but hail Brad Ahrensfield and after the stuff I read about his abuse of citizens I think he got what he obviously deserved. I used to defend Brad, because I thought he was set up by Darren, when actually when you hang with criminals you are one. Bet all the citizens who had broken limbs and were abused by Brad are glad he's in prison. KARMA!

Anonymous said...

January 28, 2012 8:15:00 AM MST

Yes, although 95% of the cops who have served the APD are great guys and women, there are other bad apples beside Al Walck. We all know about the few in the ranks that have been involved in murder, prostitution and ect. A strong community advisory board is much needed in our city and will help recognize the many fine officers who proudly serve, and also help weed out those who are unworthy of wearing the badge.

Anonymous said...

Brad didn't get NEAR enough of what he deserved! That worthless P.O.S (Bryant) had a mechanic selling drugs out of Car Shop (3 buys which included marijuana and CRACK)! Brad found out and tipped his 'buddy' off about the investigation. Brad put DOZENS of officers and FBI agents lives in danger!!!! Whether Brad thought Shawn was aware of what was going on or not, it was his DUTY AS AN OFFICER to not inform the PRIMARY SUSPECT of the investigation, and therefore compromise the case!!! I guess we'll never really know the truth of Shawns involvement now. Then, his great 'buddy' went and FU@&ED him and told EVERYBODY Brad told him (I wonder if Shawn Fu@&ed Brad well enough to prepare him for jail, hahaha)! On a side note, for one to believe Shawn didn't know drugs were being sold out of his dealership, you would have to believe he won the lottery, because he sure as hell wasn't making money out of that P.O.S. dealership.
LOOK AT THE COURT RECORDS FROM THE TRIAL!!! KNOW THE FACTS FOR YOURSELF, not from just the BS rumors you read here!

Anonymous said...

10:57 - Once I found out Bryant lives in Tanoan I started to be suspicious. Next, people on this blog were asking people to pitch in to decode the cell phone text messages. Why didn't his buddy Bryant give them the money since his garage did so well. There are cops that are on the take and from what I just read firefighters. I agree most of both are good, but the corrupt ones ruin it. I agree there are scumbags out there, but it is not a cops job to be the judge, jury and executioner. If you are found kicking a suspect and you have them down on the ground then your job is DONE! Period! Not like the good ole days - there are cameras everywhere and some cops are finally speaking out.

Anonymous said...

I never brought up the officers kicking that Aryan Brotherhood gang member. By the way. That guy was armed that night. He also was known to have threatened officers. He was resisting. Being down on the ground does not mean the fight is over or that an officer can't be killed by someone laying on the ground. If someone's hands are not under control, they are always a danger. I don't believe I ever saw that guys hands under control in that news video. And when they were that officer stopped. Being someone with an opinion doesn't mean that you are the judge jury or executioner either. I suppose you would have felt better if that guy rolled over and shot those two officers to death. Use of force isn't pretty. It doesn't mean that it isn't justified. The cop that I hear speaking up are fed up with the way they are being treated unfairly.

Anonymous said...

Bryant is moving to El Paso

Anonymous said...

In response to the above poster calling the days before cameras "the good old days". What is that supposed to mean? Now because you may possibly be video taped you should be afraid to do your job? Are you going to say that when a cop fears shooting someone in defense of their life and gets killed because it could be on video and being shot looks bad violent and gruesome? Those officers did NOTHING wrong. Their chief used them to get out from under a DOJ investigation. They got the video themselves. They werent caught doing anything. They stood up their actions and were screwed. They are good cops.

Anonymous said...

"If you are found kicking a suspect and you have them down on the ground then your job is DONE! Period!" Not accurate and such a statement betrays your ignorance of force among other things.

Anonymous said...

Everyone needs to back these officers. Their former commander had the guts to stand up for what was right, and call it for what it was, when their chief slandered them and threw them under the bus for doing their job and protecting the people in that hotel from a wanted murderer. That was a political hanging aka scapegoating. Sometimes bad things do happen. That incident wasn't one of them. What was done to those officers was dirty to the core.

Anonymous said...

I'll respond to your comments about what I stated earlier. More than ANYTHING I want that cop going home to his or her family that night. I realize there are scumbags out there. I wasn't specifically addressing the two cops on that video (although it sounded like it). In fact, I never watched the video to make a judgement. However, I know cops past and present and they have described to me the abuse cops perpetrate on citizens just because they can. I've heard about them having someone on the ground and a cop running up and jumping on their ankle and breaking it. That cops still works at APD. SO - my point was when the suspect is fully restrained your job is OVER. You do not have the right to be the judge, jury and executioner. I think that is pretty plain and simple. Take them in and turn them over. PERIOD! No extra kicks, punches, etc. or you will be giving up your badge and probably be prosecuted. My other point was cops never got caught before, but now with cameras everywhere including citizens hands you will be on the losing end. Hey just some advice - don't take it and you will be losing your jobs too! I agree Ray POS Schultz is vindictive and probably threw his officers under the bus. Like I said I didn't view the video. I'm sure some of you work with abusive cops, but don't say anything because you don't want to be retaliated against.

Anonymous said...

To: 8:49
One more thing - if the first thing you say to someone you disagree with is something derogatory - like "You are a moron". you may be one of those cops I was talking about. Can't control your mouth or temper. Maybe you aren't cut out for police work. I'll admit I could never put up with what you all have to, that's why I chose a different profession.

Anonymous said...

To Feb.1st 6:42,
Thank You for taking the time to clarify that. Most wouldn't have, or would have just gone on the attack. You summed it up pretty well. There are good cops who won't deal with bullies on the job, just as in all places. There are good, and there are bad. I agree if someone is down and restrained, and no longer a threat, someone would have a problem with me if they broke my prisoners leg for no reason after he was restrained. I have always spoken against that type of behavior. Every good hard working cop I know thinks the same too. There is no need for that. That is why people probably got mad over your post. In that video, those officers stopped using force on that criminal as he was restrained and just before the officer got his cuffs out. Those were two hard working cops who would do anything to help anyone. They did what they had to do to protect themselves, and the people in that hotel. If that guy would have gotten away, it would have been the fourth time. Three times that guy crashed cars, and almost killed people, to get away from officers. The possibility of someone, either a citizen or a cop being killed by this person, if he had gotten away was very real and extremely high. Thank God he was caught, but now for doing their jobs, and catching this criminal, these officers are being dragged through the dirt by a group of people who lie, omit, slander, and set up their employees on a daily basis.

Nothing is going to change until these malfeasants are fired. You can see the threats right away. The first thing out of the mayor's mouth was that Commander Conrad would have lost his command if he supported those officers. Well he did support those officers, and he didn't lose his command. That comment was a prime example of how this administration can't control their thirst for retaliation and vengeance. If they can't control you, they will threaten you, and retaliate against you. The entire structure of the organization is arranged to promote this conduct. Why do you think everything above lieutenant is an appointed position? Don't do what the chief wants, You get the boot. Who puts recommendations on an IA? It goes back to the commander, then back up to the chief. Do you really think an appointed employee is going to go against the chief? Restructuring is needed throughout, in order to bring about the needed positive change and gut the place of those who use corrupt methods to get ahead while ruining others to do it. If these upper eschelon thugs aren't weeded out, good officers along with the citizens of this city will continue to suffer.

Anonymous said...

To Feb. 1, 7:17 am
No, I'm not a cop, just a citizen, so I guess you are not as perceptive as you think you are...and I've seen the video and am sickened by what happened to those cops...IF you're a cop, then take a long look in the mirror..I hope you are proud of what you see.
Seek out all the evidence, then take your position. Good luck in your future.

Anonymous said...

Ref 1/1 6:42. Thanks for the clarification. Your point is reasonable but it did sound like you were talking about the AB arrest. But it's all good.

Anonymous said...

You know, everyone screams DOJ, but I believe what needs to happen is deeper than the DOJ coming in. There needs to be congressional hearings into the actions of the chief of police, and this administration. What folks need to do is write Washington and outline the civil rights violations committed along with the corruption at the high levels of city government, and the police department. For someone to put a spin on everything out of their mouth if they are not outright lieing, there is something seriously wrong. To get on television and desperately appeal to the public that a shooting is justified when we know it is, tells me you are trying to hide something bigger. To veto the DOJ coming in tells me you aren't worried about the cops conduct. You are worried about what they might find out about what you have been doing. Why go to such lengths to distort things. Everyone sees it, and those who he thinks he's fooling are getting angry at the insult to their intelligence.

Anonymous said...

The citizens and the officers need to come together for a resolution to the corruption at high levels within this city. Everyone is suffering at the hands of just a few in power. People are seeing right through the BS lip service coming out of city hall and the chief's office. Scandal after scandal with the chief always pointing the finger at the officers.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for allowing me to clarify my comments. I re-read it and realized it sounded like I was talking about that video. God Bless the cops and firefighters who are out there fighting the hard battle and then having to deal with the horrid administration. They are corrupt and the citizens know it. Unfortunately, most people have enough problems of their own and don't have the energy to deal with it. I've written the journal and cancelled them and called the news media when I know for a fact the ugly red-faced liar is spewing more bs.

Anonymous said...

Sir,
Let it be known that there truly are officers out there who would walk through fire and bullets, risk their lives, and possibly be killed to protect you and your family. Your support is all they ask. They don't even need a thanks. Just appreciation and support. Thank God the public isn't fooled by what is going on.
God Bless You and your family.

Unknown said...

Nice!Cool!

Anonymous said...

To January 18, 2012 7:25:00 AM MST

"I'm guessing you didn't spend your time beating up on civilians (just because you could) unlike many of the cops who have been on this blog"

Can you elaborate on this statement. I would like to know who all you are referencing in that statement.

Thanks!