So, as you gaze and look at the above "highlights" consider the following that is not included and factor into this agreement if the membership decides to accept it:
* The Part-Time Program is deleted
* CSA have increased duties including law enforcement activities
* Specialized unit positions do not have to be circularized if the position is for "effective operation of the department"
* The agreement is silent on any of the many changes coming down involving the Police Oversight Commission
*The Home Ownership Payment Program is deleted
* The Lateral Officer Program incentive is deleted
* The Student Loan Forgiveness Program is deleted
* The College Training Program is deleted
* Hires after 7/1/11 that do not live in the city limits of Albuquerque do not get a take home car
* The Officer Retention Program is significantly scaled back from what it was.
Our take on this is it is NOT an investment in the officers who make sacrifices for the city every day. The city asks a lot from it officers, and if this is the product of three years of negotiations, and nearly $100,000 in fees, then it is all too obvious who is in a position of control. 4-10s will never come back. Anything written under a "MOU" is rarely worth the paper it's printed on. And let's be real, any increase in pay came only recently and at the promotion of city council, not the Berry Administration. And why the rush? Weren't we all waiting for yet another UNM pay study?
While the leadership of the APOA, who have helped lead this once great department into the mess that it's in, have endorsed this agreement, we suggest you read the details for yourself and make your own decision. We can say for certain, you will not be in a better place than you are now if you ratify this proposed agreement.
But who knows, Rob Perry got a $33,000 raise, the PTC officers get a $3 raise, so maybe $.39 cents is all the value that our city's police officers hold for themselves.
44 comments:
$25-30 a check after I've lost hundreds a check over the last couple years. Who in the APOA would think this is even close something to TA. I'm not sure why I've paid union dues for 14 years. What a wasted investment.
I wouldnt negotiate anything where the city pays less for insurance premimums. That .39 cents an hour wont mean shit in a year when Obama care kicks in and everyone is automatically forced to pay more for insurance.
2.6% for lousy job performance? The DOJ is in town and the Mayor wants to give you a raise? This is the reason why I vote NO to any public safety bonds. In fact, can I get a refund on my tax dollars since I don't agree with rewarding lousy job performance!
About $15 per week and with 240 cops in the field graveyard will be going to 5-8s any day. And we have to pay more to our worthless union to justify them doing even less. And with just two voting locations maybe 100 people will vote. No just no, but FUCK NO!
250000 dollars to keep those two idiots working full time and 200000 to give the ptu (who also deserves a raise) only to kick them out? I had hope...you sold us out steph. This is a sucker bet. Let's see you stand up and act tough now willowby.
The Anti Eye:
No one wants a raise worse than I do, and I mean no one, but this is just a slap in the face. Berry just wants to get to 500 sworn so he can put a walk bridge across the great brown river. Listen people, stand strong in difficult times and we can stand strong in better times. This is our only chance to put the middle finger to Berry. We are screwed no matter what for four more years, but at least we will go on swinging, but we are not going down.
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Monahan tells it like it is, again. Thanks Berry, $26,000,000 and counting. The City Council is horrible, no accountability. The citizens have just given up. We are in the Berry Toilet bowl ride and we are in deep trouble as a community. Where is the outrage? Don't we (the citizens) care anymore?
Word is in FAC they purposely tweaked the voting process to get just enough of the people they have conned into voting for this pile of crap. We have to take time to vote no folks. If 50 show up and vote yes then it passes. Willoughby is a snake. Stop this corruption.
The slimy bags of shit who engineered this bullshit contract made sure to divide everyone. They gave the PTC officers that raise to ensure they vote for the contract. Hopefully those officers remember who voted to let them into the union and vote against this shit.
Agreed!!!!
PTU deserves a raise but not at the cost of pennies for everyone else. Send this proposed contract to the shredder & tell that stupid ass mayor nice try "slick Richie"!
Real officers will vote no to this.... the PTC guys want to be cops. They need to stop wearing real cop apparel..
OMG!!! This sucks!! Imagine what the fucktards will offer Clerical! DEB JUST SAY NO NO NO. THIS IS SPITTING ON OUR OFFICERS, NOT JUST A SLAP IN THE FACE!!!
I dont even work for APD and would not sign this contract. You go to Colorado or Texas and can make $5-9 more an hour. I have a neighbor who used to work for APD but recently moved to take a job with Denver PD. I understand from him he had not gotten a raise since he started in 2009. Your losing them left and right Berry.
City council please wake up before he ruins the APD. The men and women deserve a raise after 4 years of nothing.
If you want to "officially" ask for Lopez resignation then learn how to type your name. Anonymous requests like this end up getting flushed down the toilet.
Your request is smart, but show some courage and print your name with it. Funny how only 2 retired sergeants ever put their names out there.
Oh it's going to involve more than just Fred . Some people should've listened. Remember , Fred will cut you loose to burn all by yourselves when the bell tolls. Did you really think it was just going to go away? The Feds don't play that crap.
If pay raises in APD were based on merit, rather than union membership or just "wearing the uniform", a remarkably few would get mind boggling raises, while a majority of the thumb-sucking bed-wetters would have to accept pay cuts just to stay in uniform and employed. There are a lot of APD cops who are convinced that wearing a uniform, a badge and a gun make them "chick magnets" and "a force to beware of", (a condition normally outgrown by 9th grade). Sadly, many of the current crop can't, or feel no need, to get past that point.
Yeah no kidding but we all know why. The APOA will eat it's own faster than you can say TJ sucks burr-eat-ohs, just ask the endless cops that get tossed to the likes of Banks and Roseman with Mowrerer to only say, cut your losses....resign. Steph and Willowboy learned from their buddy....Schultz and practice the same shit.
Wow I didn't know that the FAC actually had 34s working there. They always call for FSB from Valley to take their 42's. The information that FAC has 34s working will need to be verified.
@6:12 yeah just like the way you left your name on your post. Ass Hat.....
I am not calling for stephanie to resign fool. If you are brave enough to demand it then be brave enough to put your name on it. Or just sit at your computer and grow larger.
Isaac Benson wants 24 / 7 extra patrols in downtown. Get in line. APD is down 300 cops and the city council is just now starting to figure out that Albuquerque is getting more dangerous? Why doesn't the city council bring Berry in front of them and ask him where the 300 cops from 4 years ago went? Benson's idea is foolish. Why is downtown any more important than any other part of town? FSB city wide has fewer officers and we can thank Berry and city councilors like Benson who have done nothing.
There will be criminal charges coming down in the near future for Fred and the Ex-occupants of the filthy fifth floor. Add Fred's boy Joey and another fair haired golden boy from IA to the mix also. 2014 is going to be a very interesting year.
Let's see, before the details were even released Berry's version of Pravda was calling for acceptance of the proposed contract. That means we get screwed by it, so no!. Then of course there's the fact that public safety unions have won their lawsuits all over the country except ours sits in court gathering dust, so NO! Then lastly if we sign this stupid .39 contract it lessens the harm we've endured because of Berry's impasse style of negotiations, so HELL NO!!!
Before APOA members vote yea or nay on this contract there are important questions to ask regarding the Veteran officer retention program.
It appears the veteran officer will be the one deciding if they want the bonus in their deferred comp or as a cash bonus. If this is correct there are some tax liability and PERA questions that must be answered. The APOA needs these answers in writing so the City can't change their policy later.
Here are the questions:
1. If the retention money is taken as a cash bonus what type of tax liability will the officer face? Most bonuses are taxed at the highest rate (39% federal and 8% state, equals 47% of the amount). If this is the case almost half of your bonus would go to taxes. How will the city view this?
2. If taken as deferred comp will the officer receive the entire amount?
3. Will this bonus count toward the officers' PERA? Will it only count if taken as a cash bonus?
If the bonus does not count toward PERA calculations the officer is being cheated (my opinion). This is because any bonus not counted toward PERA calculations, will reduce the officers retirement. Most of us will be getting a check from PERA for many more years than from the city, so anything the city gives you should count toward your PERA calculation.
Knowledge is power. Make sure you know how everything works and get it in writing before you vote. That is why you have 10 days to review.
Klein
Shut the hell up Stephanie and resign! We will see what happens after the vote!
During the election debates all you heard from Berry's mouth was how much he cared for the police. I called him out then and I am calling him out now. In my opinion Berry cares nothing about the police and this contract proves it. All of you need to stand together FOR ONCE AND VOTE NO! Is .39 cents, and all the negative changes to the contract worth your integrity ? To the poster that talks about lousy performance, I will say this, PERFORMANCE STARTS AT THE TOP ! Now if you want to attack me go ahead, but put your name on it.
What should've been written into contract is having the re-hires pull their own weight, only a handful that are SRO's do their actual job the rest are hooked up in cush-cush jobs, most of us aren't really impressed about what you did in swat 20+ years ago, thats ancient shit and tactics, we can't get into training position due to all of your laziness and not moving on. Shag a damn call for once, earn your keep you freeloaders.
Stephanie's done some good things for us. Let's exercise self-control by not bashing each other, and unite by voting no to this contract. An extra 39 cents an hour to do twice the amount of work we were doing four years ago to make up for attrition rates is preposterous and downright insulting.
For all of those officers complaining about getting screwed over and your voice not getting heard...I didn't see any of you at the city council meeting...in fact I didn't see anyone except Aragon who was there on COT. This is your battle. Stop waiting for someone else to fight it for you.
Anyone who has 49 on the lawsuit against Fred and the 5th floor, would you please post the name of the attorney handling the case? I would love to share some info and maybe join the lawsuit.
Exactly Dan and Paul. And Steph explain how .39 X 40 X 52 X 700 equals $1.5 Million. The cost of our raise adds up to about $567,000. What the hell is going on?!?!
I would like extra patrols in my neighborhood and im sure the business owners would too.
The money they are trying to extort from us in vacation time comes out of our raise money. So if you do the math you can see what a scam this is. That vacation time costs money, so you have to multiply it by the number of officers times 2080.This includes supervisors. Then you have to add on benefits which is 40 cents on every dollar and add that. Then add up Sean and steph salaries plus benefits. Then the ptu raises plus benefits. You can begin to see that the APOA president and vp along with thirty ptu people took the bulk of the money. Why won't you be honest with us ? And quit trying to blame the city for delivering this to us, this is your responsibility so try owning it. Oh and btw your own board member filled me in. They heard you telling the ptu how happy you are that you "got them" a raise.
What happened at city council? Did Stephanie or Shawn do another speech asking for fully automatic rifles for all officers? Why go there when you can watch it live in its entirety on GOVTV from the comfort of my vibrating lazy boy? Same result anyways nothing gets done. I heard alot of shouting in the audience but it was when naked man Don Shraeder told us he never pays taxes and hates booze.
Klein,
Thanks for putting that informative information out there that no one else seems to care about. You dont even work for APD anymore and your reading between the lines. You have our back more than our own APOA leadership does. Hey union how come Klein sees this simple information and your keeping it secret? Is it because you want it to pass without questions from the membership so you guys and banks can continue frolicking around? You think no one sees you guys giggling together but Santa sees everything. He knows when youve been bad or good.
Oh so NOW they are going to try to get a portal up on the APOA website so folks can vote. What is this, our version of Obamacare???!!!! Ya think maybe you cda had it up already?
We don't need a portal, we need toilet for that crap proposal
Perhaps APD would get would get a better contract if there was threat of a walk out. Sometimes ya gotta play hardball..
Whats this I hear that each member is going to have to give or donate 5 hours of vacation or comp to pay for APOA president and Vice President.
If any of this is true the city negotiator are smoking the green stuff. Absolutely unexceptable.
Time to lateral to BCSO, NMSP, Sandoval County, or NMSP. At least their administrations support thier troops
Please EXPLAIN someone
Yes, go vote for a raise that council already approved cabq employees of. Council is already on Perrys ass wanting to know why employees have not been given this raise. Don't make it easy for the city to screw you now. Stand firm and stand together!
Farmington PD is hiring; $15K bonus for in state lateral certified officers. Good dept; good pay. Take home unit immediately and all eqpt provided including a patrol rifle. Or you can stay in Abq with the snakes and better choice of restaurants.....
The lawsuit against 5th floor and APOA is being handled by DoJ. Contact the local FBI office to advise them you request an anonymous meeting to provide information and that you will be needing federal whistleblower protection.
As Detroit's mayor has taught us, from his current prison cell, you cannot represent a City (or it's entities, like a union) while knowing you have a conflict of interest.
Isn't nepotism and giving jobs to unqualified people because they contributed a lot of cash to your campaign for favors in return ILLEGAL. I mean what fucking chance do hard working long term city workers have when management is being told to hire Mr. Big Bucks who contributed to Mayor Berry 's coffers! Grrrrrrr.....investigate this DOJ!!!!
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