The Piercing Truth

This is right from the dictionary and seems to describe Albuquerque, Berry and Schultz. Fascism (f ash ,izem) noun An authoritarian right wing system of government and/or social organization. (in general use) extreme right wing, authoritarian, chauvinistic and/or intolerant views or practices. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one group over another, national, ethnic, especially social strata or monetarily; a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach. Compliments of one of our Eyes

Apr 18, 2012

"SUBSTANDARD" Policing; Thanks Ray-Ray (1.7 Million Tax dollars lost)


During the Vietnam War, after missions where VietCong or NVA regular troops were killed, American soldiers occasionally left calling cards—death cards as they became known—to remind the enemy who they were fighting against. The Ace of Spades was this card and as such it is identified as the card of winter and thus known as the “death card.” To the Vietnamese, the icon of the spade held significant meaning and was itself a bad omen. Lately, this card represents a bad omen to the taxpayers of Albuquerque.

On July 6, 2009, the Eye broke a story about detectives of APD’s Criminal Nuisance Abatement Unit leaving the so-called death card at properties where they removed occupants and condemned the building as uninhabitable. Talk also focused on detectives taking pictures of themselves while boastfully standing over recently arrested or evicted persons while brandishing their rifles like Mexican narco-terrorists. The unit sought to inspire fear and intimidation as part of their, let’s be honest, largely administrative activities. Since then, the failures of this unit continued unabated and this past week CAO Rob Perry announced a settlement with the lawyer representing the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit for almost $2 Million. Our Eyes tell us this lawsuit was filed in 2009 shortly after the revelations broke about the misconduct of the detectives in the CNAU. Mr. Perry and Mayor Berry were quick to state that this was a problem they inherited from the previous administration. We think that’s a weak statement given that the Berry administration endorsed the continued operations of the Safe City Strike Force since Berry’s election almost 2 ½ years ago. We also think it’s a ridiculous statement since these activities started and continued under the direction of APD Chief Ray Schultz—who apparently is still the chief of police.

Which leads us to questions we raised back in 2009: What were these detectives thinking? Either they indeed view their actions analogous with armed combat with an enemy in a war zone OR they are mocking the very activity they are engaged in. Either way, such conduct is an insult to every real officer who puts on a badge and gun and seriously takes their oath to serve and protect. Is it not enough to remove somebody from their dwelling that you have to “spike the football” by leaving a card that reinforces intimidation and fear. Our Eyes tell us not only did they leave cards as in the above pictures, but they posted them on walls with knives as well.

Chief Schultz will of course continue to publically assert his ignorance and that he knew nothing about it. But anybody who works with or knows Schultz concedes he is a consummate control-freak and to suggest he doesn’t know what’s going on in his department is not dealing with reality. How many previous chief’s had an MDT on their desktop? How many previous chiefs routinely use the Internal Affairs and Criminal Intelligence units to do specific tasks directed by the 5th floor? We are told the activities by these detectives, and worse, are among the reasons why the city settled this case. With the US Department of Justice evaluating whether or not there’s a pattern and practice of civil rights abuses by APD, the Mayor is doing everything he can to avoid such an investigation. As such it seems the Mayor (or CAO Rob Perry since we are told he’s the one that actually runs the city) will put his political interests before the interests of the taxpayers. This shouldn’t surprise us.

In Covey’s “Speed of Trust,” heavy emphasis is placed on Practicing Accountability. Great leaders build trust by first holding themselves accountable for bad results. They don’t blame others. This noble principle is something that, sadly, is without precedent in the leadership of APD or the City of Albuquerque. Chief Schultz and Mayor Berry are more interested in spiking the football to thwart any objective and independent review of the APD. They have spiked this football by unjustly terminating officers (all of whom seem to be winning their jobs back as of late), ignoring critical calls, disregarding misconduct by deputy chiefs, and dangerous events in particular and creating a general climate of distrust, fear, and intimidation in general. Do we see or hear any statements accepting personal accountability by Chief Schultz?

P.S. Our Eyes also tell us Mayor Berry is out of town in New York trying to bolster the city’s bond ratings which have continued to fall from AAA and Wall Street has given the city a “Negative Outlook.” How’s that for spiking the football?

P.P.S. We are also still trying to figure out why the APOA would attack the four city counselors who have been staunch advocates of the officers and their battles against the administration and why the APOA leadership would DEFEND APD’s leadership when they have failed the officers time and time again……


We are surprised Schultz didn't order the detectives to leave his calling card of a swastika; same difference right...

59 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nice article about The chief of the Albuquerque police department's failure as a leader. In the La Times none the less.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/14/nation/la-na-albuquerque-police-20120415

There is one consistent factor here. The chief of police. They can say they inherited every problem from the old administration, but the fact of the matter is that along with those problems they have inherited an idiot. This proves nothing has changed.

If I didn't know any better I would say that ray either really pissed someone off, or finally picked the wrong person to screw with. The lesson here is do your homework before you pick someone to target. You never know just how wide their network is.

The only shame here is that the officers and department get dragged into this guys crap.

Hopefully those in city council keep pressure on for the removal of this unfit chief. They have the power to make a change.

Anonymous said...

Try not to be so far sighted Eye. You mock the CNAU detectives compared to "real officers" who put on a badge and a gun. C'mon, I was never in CNAU but worked side by side with them many times. They were always hard working, and did their job. They were a huge help dealing with problem houses in the area command. You can critique their picture taking and card leaving, that is fine. But to act like the Eye or any other officer hasn't done something stupid while on the job takes away your credibility. Don't turn this blog into the typical 34 complaining about how worthless every other 34 is, or how one specialized unit is perfect while the rest are incompetent. I heard all that on the kindergarten playground!

Anonymous said...

My only issue with the Criminal Nuisance Abatement Unit, they are treading very close to 4th amendment violations. While they have used this power for some good and shut down a lot of "crack houses" etc...the potential for abuse is huge. I don't mind the calling card thing...especially if it's designed to send a message to organized crime rings. I am also concerned that they have civilians (code inspectors) attached to this unit, who actually have unmarked take home units with MDTs etc. These "code inspectors" are required to find things, even obscure violations in order to supersede the 4th amendment.

Anonymous said...

CNAU detectives that did/do their jobs are 10-4 but those fools like Surran are disgrace. And because of them, they've made us all look like fools.

Anonymous said...

Its not so much the issue of these bonehead cops, it seems like its the same old story, Ray Shcultz owns nothing, knows nothing, and does nothing. Guys like that are always backstabbing control freaks. Look who's faithful to him as well, nobody impressive. Bunch of sad sacks. And wtf is up with the APOA? Ken Sanchez has been a defender and good friend to labor and you all send a letter giving them grief. JesusHChrist, we thought things couldn't get worse after Joey,,,i'm beginnin to think we'd be better off with him...

Anonymous said...

The CNAU was and is comprised of good cops; although, their efforts have been misguided by the administration and Safe City Strike Force (City Attorney's Office). They in fact have shut down numerous problem properties throughout the city by way of treading closely on the 4th Amendment. As a cop I always understood that law enforcement does not interfere with civil matters whether they be custody issues or other similar court orders. Never have I or any other cop that I know stood by or influenced the separation or assigning of private property, so how is a house, motel, or apartment building any ddifferent? The SOP details what our actions as 34's should be and what they can't be. Essentially, as a cop we are expected to do more than "keep the peace" during times that we are called upon concerning civil matters. Yet, the CNAU is used by the city as a sort of "goon squad." The SCSF allows cops to circumvent the legal (criminal) process by accompanying civilians in their inspections of properties. Certainly our fellow cops aren't there looking for faulty wiring or leaky pipes. Many of the properties that CNAU has shut down or investigated were brought to their attention based on known or suspected drug activities. I have no compassion for criminals, much less drug dealers. But, lets do things the right way. Let our field cops make their contacts and car stops to help develop the PC and let our narcs guys make their buys and use their informants to build a solid case. Instead, these criminals are making BIG $$$ off of the city's poor judgement. And as complcit as they are, the CNAU for the most part doesn't know any better. The do what the SFCF and dept/city admin tell them to do and figure that they are ok in doing so.

But, lets look at the big picture here. If not for the CNAU and the hard work that they put in, many of the shithole motels up in the SE would never have been shut down and seized by the city. The warzone would have never become the "International District." Lots of business and an increase in property values, oh and a whole lot of gross receipts. Thats a good thing right? On the surface, absulutely yes. But in reality, the city admin is using law enforcement personell to displace criminal activities (not eliminate them) so that certain areas could be built up. Who stands to gain here financially? With all of the supposed transparency berry speaks of surley he could point out where exactly in the city budget that all of these property acquisitions are being plugged in. Thats is potentially millions upon millions of dollars for the commercial properties alone not counting the many residential properties. Again, who stands to gain here? Who are the developers and contractors? Who are the leaders of these communities and what is their relationship to the 5th/11th floor? Shouldn't that stuff be in the trasparency report too?

Of course this rant sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory but in the overall scheme of things $2million dollars paid out in related law suits might just be petty change compared to the real $$$ associated with this whole mess.

Anonymous said...

Ref post 2:04....valid points.

Anonymous said...

In July 2009, an IA investigation was conducted. All 4 Detectives involved were immediately and permanently removed from CNAU when the photos first surfaced. 2 are now deceased, 1 left the State with the 4th in uniform and still on patrol. 3 inspectors were also dicilplined and suspended.

Anonymous said...

Heard grumbling has started by all of the unfaithful and whores who work for APD about the new fraternization policy.

To bad, your little sexual excapade environment is now under the microscope. It's your choice, change or move on.

This is one of the long overdue policies that APD needed.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't the sergeant demoted too?

Anonymous said...

Therein lies the problem 8:49, despite breaking it off on the cops the pattern and practice of the unit continued and was endorsed by RayRay leading to the mess last week.

Anonymous said...

Law enforcement, public safety, community service, all of which are very honorable.

To finish my previous thought, as a cop regardless of rank or position @ APD our jobs as public servants we should NEVER be in the business of revenue building. Example #1: 34's not performing traffic enforcement at major intersections and high traffic areas so that the red light cameras and speed van can nab traffic violators. Sounds ok? Well if a cop issues the citation there is a level of due process in place to protect citizen's rights. Any fines are paid to the state and only a small % is handed back down to the issuing agency; however, APD's method of traffic enforcement provides ZERO due process as the fines are cosidered "civil" fees thus, the city receives 100%. Big $$$ maker. Example 2: The SCSF/ABQ's admin overzealous pursuit of properties (not offenders) by way of CNAU combining civilian and sworn law enforcement and their respective authority. The city has gained substantional $$$ directly by the acquisition of properties and indirectly by way of increased gross receipts from the now developed properties. It's a good thing right? Well of course it is if we know where the $$$ is going. Transparency, yeah right berry. Again, cops doing revenue building on behalf of the city.

It is a well known fact that many of the non-operating budgets i.e., risk management among others, have doubled or more in size by way of "concealing" $$$ from employee bargaining units. The city has continued to gain big $$$ off the backs of cops and other city employees, yet these employees still face furloughs, pay-cuts, and have had their respective contracts squashed. In the meantime, the city/berry has not reeled back the use of tax payer $$$ when it comes to servicing certain special projects and affluent areas of the city, namely the 4hills and canyon communities (berry's own backyard).

Back to the point at hand, cops should not be in the business of revenue building as big $$$ and no leadership inevitably leads to coruption... "absolute power corrupts absolutely." berry can point the finger of blame to the previous admin but he can't hide the fact that he has perpetuated the cycle by continuing with questionable operations and policies and keeping certain cogs in place i.e., schultz. Regardless of who ABQ's architect of corruption is, it sure looks like berry caught the fever.

Anonymous said...

A fraternization policy is LONG overdue @ APD. Whether it is co-worker relationships or those with subordinates it has been a BIG problem. With all due respect to those affected and without naming names, it is a shame that certain altercations have taken place in the workplace over sex partners. It is a shame that a Supv could use his/her position of authority to engage in such relations. It is a shame that whistlblowers get shunned while the offenders are "held in obeyance" and often ushered throuhg the ranks. It is a shame that a cop could beat the crap out of another cop in broad daylight yet the incident gets swept. It is a shame that these instances have raised to the level of violence, 43-1, and worse with the investigation down in vc. But what do you expect when you have existing supervisors who were raised up on the department with those values in place. When top end brass get popped in action and nothing becomes of it what are our young cops to think. Heck it must be ok behavior right?

Anonymous said...

The Eye may want to do a little more home work. Go to the KRQE web site and search "Safe City Strike Force". On June 30, 2009, KRQE ran a story by Kim Holland entitled "Strike Force Agents Punished...Suspension, trasnsfers reported." The story talks about the photos and Ace of Spades.

Anonymous said...

Ya it is. Too bad it didnt get Lt. Montano out before he got the chance to ruin a marriage (including his own). Now he's teaching ethics to cadets?! Its a good thing the lesson plan is on power point. I dont think he coulda written that himself. APD needs a cleansing!

Anonymous said...

Well geeze Louise!!!
Our boy done made himself famous.
The LA Times!

At least that newspaper is stating that he is being asked to step down.

While the level of disgrace has reached an all time low, I would retire before it hits rock bottom, and the embezzlement indictments come, people start flipping, and the whole place turns into a sucking black hole of finger pointing and more lies. If we all had a dollar for every lie, Albuquerque could fund it's Megamillions lottery.

Live by the media, get destroyed by the media.

Money is given to officers to help them get away from the media stress and this chief not only denies knowing about it, but yet again uses this information to act as if he is appalled and shocked. Then acts like he is doing something, when he only threw everyone under the bus again to make himself look better in another failed attempt. His academy staff, and psych services brief cadets during class that part of dealing with a shooting is the fact that the APOA provides funds to get the officer and his family out of town to get away from the stress. The lies keep adding up.

Arbitrators are lied on because they are catching these administrators red handed dirty.
More lies.

The city attorney attacks an arbitrator's reputation and the city attorney is found to be the one with warrantless and frivolous claims. The city attorney is the inept and biased one who works tirelessly at stacking the cards in her favor to the point that she makes it more obvious than the sinking of the Titanic. Then this crybaby tries to spite everyone with threats that she will take every arbitration to a district court hearing out of sour grapes. Well, a jury would rip you into even smaller pieces over your cronies illegal behavior. Forget district court sweetie. That's YOUR only option. Worry about federal court. When the officer opts for that course there is no cap in the pay out, and those jurys will eat you alive. When the citizens find out you are using their tax monies for spite work, you will be out of a job.

Every time a snake appears on television to give a press conference, or speak to the media in any capacity, it should be suspect, and realized for it's ulterior motive; psychological manipulation of the citizens, concealment of other issues that the administration would like to keep attention away from, and influence for their twisted objectives of self preservation, and parasitic behavior on the backs of every living thing in this city. Between the lies that come out of their mouths and the half information that the media releases after recording the lies and choosing the best ones to air, this place makes the Land of Make Believe look like an educational documentary. Maybe we can have Mr. Rodgers be the new Chief. We already have the Rail Runner. This place is perfect!
HINT: Give it up. Everyone sees right through the bullshit. You are all known for what you are.
You are not fooling anyone anymore. It might have worked for a little while but now, with information and technology the way it is, you can't get away from the TRUTH. The truth will be your end.
Do the honorable thing. Walk away before the legal system has you running. This city and it's residents do not deserve this disgrace. The problem is the leadership.

Anonymous said...

Whomever is responsible for creating those masterpieces ov video about the two union creeps over on Fans of APD, I would like to buy you a beer. I laughed my ass off at those two videos. How true. The pool table picture was hilarious. Hopefully those two will be arrested and charged with felonies. Another round of resignations / terminations for both of them.

Anonymous said...

W is everyone leaving out Pete Denalli (sp) the CNAU answered directly to him and he directed them on what to do. The Officers have claimed their responsibility on all of this but Pete was the Captain of that ship.

Anonymous said...

CNAU is just another closet created for lazy ass 34's... And speaking of closets why are so many 34's in Inspections, Accreditation, and so on... Get them on the streets GEEEEEZ

Anonymous said...

Ray Ray is great at telling Sgts they will be held accountable for their officers and disciplined for failure to supervise. Which begs the question, who the heck should be responsible for failing to supervise the whole friggin' dept since it's gone downhill under Ray Ray's command?!

Anonymous said...

The APOA has absolutely no right to "attack" city council members unless something malicious has come our way at their hands, which has not happend. They are public servents just as we at APD so often forget that we are the same. And, as a veteran 34 and long-standing member of the APOA I do not condone their actions. For those of us who have not lost focus on the mission of law enforcement and who proudly perform our duties to the best of our abilities, we should join the council members who would call for a federal query of APD. Lets not forget that they are merely the voice of the constituents they serve. Of the council members who are being blasted by the APOA there are a couple who many 34's know personally to be staunch supporters of 34's. Not the dept and its' policies, or even its' administration, but of 34's... So, are we as cops to support and defend an embarrassing flawed hierarchy and their practices, or do we help take APD to its' rightful position of prominence as it was before. This is not about the officer-involved shootings, those almost 100% have been dissected over and over again. The slight exceptions have resulted in appropriate action by APD. Lets not forget that every shooting is investigated with oversight of outside agencies and sent to the DA to be presented to the Grand Jury and further reviewed by the feds. The taking of a human life by a police officer could very well be the greatest violation of one's rights so really, who out there is so foolish to think that the feds aren't already on this issue. Officer-involved shooting are investigated above and beyond shootings by citizens, and rightfully so. The fact is, the city and APD don't want the physical presence of a federal query due to the fact that other things might be scrutinized and made public. So, here we have the voice of the APOA, and members of APD's admin by the way, attacking city council members. This is just the beginning of things yet to come now that berry is entrenched in the APOA. Good job guys, you are now part of the many problems @ APD.

Anonymous said...

The APOA did not lash out against the city council in a collective voice, it was the APOA's newly planted leadership that is under the control and tutiledge of the city and dept admin. Those clowns do not speak for the entire membership in matters such as this. Quick history lesson from previous times @ APD... #1 APOA leaders spoke on behalf of the membership and 34's lost out on the "lunch-time lawsuit" #2 34's lost their vehicles and retention bonuses, among other recruiting incentives #3 aviation and open space, who COULD NEVER BECOME APD 34's by their own merit, suddenly bacme so. This can go on and on and on, but I'm sure you get the point. There was a time when the APOA had as much as captains (commanders) in representation @ meetings etc, but the fact that they became @will employees led to their dropping from the APOA. Considering just how political the Lieutenant position is by the mere fact that they could now be appointed to higher ranks, as well as sergeants who see this and buy into it by playing the "game," it is probably not a bad idea to at least consider if supervisors of any rank have a place within the APOA.

Anonymous said...

The APOA are traitors. With that said. Those city councelors backed the APOA in it's lawsuit against the mayor for breach of contract, now those two fools want to turn on the ones that had our backs.
That was just plain wrong, and a slap in the face to those councilors. I really hope they know the APOA is being led again by two self serving individuals who don't have the balls to stand up against this corrupt administration. One is a sergeant with no physical ability to be a cop at all. He has no place even being a 34. He does nothing but sit around talking shit about other 34s and kisses the chief's ass. He wouldn't pass up the opportunity to kiss up to that man for a million bucks. The other guy, another sergeant, has a nice spot in a unit. Do you think for a minute these two are going to call anyone in this administration out. Two Jane Fondas albeit fat and bald Jane Fondas, but two Janes none the less. WTF are two members of management doing in a representative position anyway???

The comment prior nailed it. The chief, along with the mayor and all their ass polishers would shit their britches if the feds came in and conducted a probe into every crack of APD. They would probably all go to jail. From their crooked investigations with predetermined outcomes, where they frame officers, and order subordinates to lie to the media and lie during investigations, to their own dirty involvement in manipulating every aspect of this organization for their own personal gain.
Hopefully when this investigation into the embezzled monies from the APOA hits, and indictments come, everyone involved in protecting those two will go down too. Odds are they already had their closed door meetings, and were told don't worry, you'll be ok. Theft of that level is a misdemeanor, and if they stole, NO they won't be ok. So hurry up boys and get all your dirt in order so you can flip on your handlers in hopes of a lighter sentence.

APD: Where they reward parasitic, two faced spineless creeps with no honor integrity or courage, and punish the courageous who stand up for themselves, the citizens, and what is right while protecting this city from violent criminals.

Simon SAYS said...

Ray,
Nice press statement. Left ball, right ball, and you in the middle.


"He just recently got out of jail on the 16th of this month," APD Chief Ray Schultz said at a news conference just outside the crime scene Thursday. "So it looks like he just got out of jail two or three days ago."

I recall some clown stating that you can't let the past overshadow the events at hand.

Someone can't keep track of what comes out of their mouth.

Anonymous said...

For those saying CNAU is lazy, you have never been with them on a call. Perhaps you think the neighborhood horder, abandon vehicle junk yard house, or slum lord crack house isnt your concern. Well it would be your concern if they were your next door neighbor. It is a crime prevention fact, that if a neighborhood looks like crap, then crap move in. CNAU whether you like them or not, have done a fantastic job. Maybe the rules have to change a bit, but who else is going to get a slum lord to stop renting to drug dealers or who else is going to get people to clean up their property. Try selling your house when the neighbor next door has 10 junk cars in the backyard and its a haven for criminal activity. Planning and code enforcement can be called to some of these places, but stats show, most places like this is have criminal intent. I give credit where credit is due....keep up the good work CNAU

Anonymous said...

Wow Mike Hill have you been with APD for 13 years? I don't think so.

Anonymous said...

Who gives a fuck about CNAU, they got too aggressive and now got slapped. Just do your job and quit gloating with stupid cards and rifles. Regarding Tommy Henderson, he was quick to boast about how bad the video of Doyle and Woolever looked and how fucked they were. I challenged him on whether he'd seen the video when he said this and he confessed he hadn't. This is the leadership of APOA, drawing conclusions and sucking the chief and mayor's ass. There's up to $250,000 in funds that need accounting and you want to talk about getting bids for an audit??? Do I get this right??? They assume two cops that arrested a violent fleeing felon are guilty and cast them aside without any informed analysis but when the facts are plain as day you want to 27 it to death!?!? Fuck'n hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

Who cares 10:21?? That's the same ole baby sh!t arguement that makes Officers look petty. Grow up

Double Standard said...

Queston: What constitutes a threat implied, perceived, real or imagined?

I've frequented this site and I've often read the reference to the Facebook page "Fans of the Albuquerque Police Departmen", so out of currosity I went to it and I hit the "like" button and what happend was a shock to me. What was simply a someone with a difference of opinion with what I'm pretty sure was an officers wife nontheless this officers wife verbalized a threatend through telefonic/internet. There was a back and forth with some advice that her post could be construed in a manner that could be detrimental to her husband of which she didn't agree with.

You can be supportive of APD, you can be critical of APD, and ask tough questions of APD, but in no way should the public EVER be silenced, intimadated or threatend by an APD officer or their overzealous family members.

Let's see you (EYE) do a hard hitting story on this wife threatning the lively hood of a person who had a differenc of opinion with an APD officers wife who claim she doesn't speak for him (officer).

It's often said that the Mayor, CAO Perry, Chief Schultz read this site well what is the federal, or state statute for using telecommunications/computer to threaten the livelyhood of another doing this after she claimed her husband who is an officer "knows everything she says and post" and goes on to post his cell number to call and verify it with him if you so choose,but she then tries to back track after a threat has been made and goes on to say "BTW, I don't speak for him."

A majority of you officers probably know who this officer is and who this wife is. You've also arrested and, or, cited many many people for doing this very thing.

P.S. I find it interesting the moderator of the site has since deleted the whole thing.

p.s.s. An officers job is hard enough and you have a million other things to worry about (like returning home safe to your loved ones) without your own family members making your job harder with social media sites that contain ignorant,crass, or in this case threatning comments to the public. This was the point that went unheard by the wife.

Stealth said...

Re: "Question"

Interesting post. The Eye On Albuquerque is a "stand alone public opinion blog." We are not affiliate with any other blogs or sites.

Our primary concerns is the safety and well being of the citizens of Albuquerque as a whole.

Anonymous said...

I write this because I know a lot of APD cops read this blog. April 21 at about 1 pm at Central and Sunset a drunk guy got hit crossing the road. APD got there and did a great job, until...... They blocked all of westbound Central Avenue forcing all four lanes (3 lanes and a turn lane to south Sunset) onto Sunset Road. Not one of the officers at the scene came over to direct traffic. It was nuts! People going westbound were doing the craziest stuff to get southbound on Sunset. So I am writing this in hopes that the supervisor at this scene recognizes that in the future, when you divert traffic on a major road, you must have an officer there helping people by directing traffic.

Anonymous said...

To the idiot 34 talking about Open Space and Aviation....why do you have to bash other 34's your no better then the next. Most aviation cops chose to come here and some I do understand your point but half are retired APD..SO SHUT THE F**K UP. Also to make it clear Aviation is no part of APD in any way..just have the same union contract..our uniforms and units were not the admins decision here..It will all change soon..so stop the bashing..I have respect for all you 34's at APD except for the arrogant shit heads that want to bash every 34 that isn't APD. Respects to all of you and stay safe.

Anonymous said...

to 2:44

You have no respect for anyone with that kind of language. Grow up. If you want to answer the poster do so in a way that doesn't make you look like a fool.

Anonymous said...

Is there going to be an election or are these union dummies going to be it for us. There's alot of mis-information out there and it smells of 5th floor nonsense. What union has supervisors "appointed" as leaders??

There was more media bs in Sundays paper and it said "the APOA did not respond for requests for comment". The idea of the UNION is to have our backs A-holes....

Anonymous said...

Ref Sunday's paper, every officer of APD should recognize that not only did Ray abandon you all by saying he didn't know the details of the grand jury process but so did Weber and Henderson in their lack of comment. The APOA sure could craft a letter fast enoughbtomsend to the city counsilors who back the rank and file but have issues with Apd's leadership but where the fuck were they to respond with that hack wannabe Jeff Proctor. Jesus Jeff, do you really want to the work for the city so bad that you take everything Ray says as gospel while you actually counter officer statements with those of a convicted felon like Paisano!!!? You can't be more obvious!

Anonymous said...

Ray is now on record in Sunday's Journal that he is not aware of anything. Wow since 1981 he has not be aware of how APD operates. nice

Anonymous said...

To 2:44, lets get things very clear here, beginning with your implied insight as to your "it will all change soon" comment. Do you know something we all don't? If so, you are obviously one of those trolls attempting to entrap a 34. And whether you want to here it, believe it, or not, the fact remains that the vast majority of those who have sought employment at lesser departments in and around ABQ actually applied to APD first. The term "lesser" does dot necessarily mean I or anyone else views one cop more or less than another. But, the fact remains that certain agencies have much less obligations so far as "law enforcement" whether they be due to population, crime rate, and so on. I know a couple aviation 34's, and they are good guys, and they did in fact apply to APD and other larger depts. I know others, including lawrence torrez who opted for Open Space after NUMEROUS failed attempts at APD. The guys I know form Aviation and the former open space Dept admit to the fact that they are bored and frustrated by the fact that they don't do "real" cop work. As for Aviation being a separate agency, yes I suppose it is. Yet why is it that Aviation 34's wear a uniform so similar to APD and why is it that they maintain their certs by attending MOE etc @ APD's acad rather than go to SF where MANY if not ALL of them initially became certified. Could it be that the fact that they are governed by the supposed contract between ABQ and APOA and are commissioned within the city of ABQ by the CofP allows APD to claim them as actual APD 34's...

Anonymous said...

APOA does NOT need to be commenting on Proctor's story. We should not be involved in the Chief's lies. The stories on the "bounties" are proof. APOA keep your mouth SHUT.

Anonymous said...

Here again is Schultz lieing like he doesn't know how the GJ works? Everyone else did and were not in charge of anyone. Liar liar pants on fire. Get the fuc* out of APD and let the poor person who takes your job spend the next 10 years fixing your fuc# ups.

Anonymous said...

The APOA should be doing what the two recently resigned presidents didn't do. Back the officers who were framed, lied on, and wrongfully terminated. They should be assisting in the exposure of this travesty. Start making a stand for your oficers instead of standing by watching them be victimized by a corrupt leadership structure.

Anonymous said...

To 2:44 cont, my comments are based on facts and merely intendnded to illustrate the many faults @ APD, so I will not retract my statements or apologize for your hurt feelings. A cop is a cop, I get and respect that. Apples and oranges, to be generous. But just the same, as an APD 34 I would never compare my day-to-day to that of cops who dealt w/the North Hollywood shoot-out, the LA riots, the NYPD who loses more 34's in the line of duty than we could wish to fathom, and the list goes on... The defensive response that you take is admirable but really, let us save it for another time. The premis of this story is based on ABQ's/APD's failures and "substandard" policing. The fact is that ABQ went above and beyond (meaning they scammed every bit they could and @ any cost) to supposedly "grow" APD... And as this story cleary reads, they stretched their authority to the point that we as cops look HORRIBLE and the tax-payers who we serve are stuck to pay the bills.

P.S. I'm sorry that you have no perspective and are so insecure. But understand, that if you choose to respond w/F-bombs and other profanities that you do no more than make yourself out to appear as a complete idiot, and you make other cops (Aviation especially) look bad. Remember, it's not just cops who read this. Just trying to look out for a fellow 34.

Anonymous said...

So, our superb mayor berry is in NY trying to "bolster" ABQ's bond ratings huh? Look out for the manner in which crime stats are kept here for a while. It might even be possible that berry's "property crimes" initiative gets abandoned or scaled back to give the "appearance" of less crime. Been there, done that.

Anonymous said...

It's not just APOA that sucks--since berry took office all the unions "representing" COA workers have gone over to the dark side. They don't do anything for us, the administrators/heads of all city departments are running over their employees & the unions don't do anything. It's all political, they're all in the mayor's pocket, just like schultz, perry, the council (except for the "gang of four") it's hopeless -- each and every union contract is being violated and no union rep. gives a rats ass. It's not just 34s getting screwed by their union.

Anonymous said...

Commanders get charged and fired for manipulating UCR codes and FBI statistics. It has happened nationwide within departments and is a rather nasty scandal when it does. Federal funding is based on those stats. The Feds don't play when it comes to fraud and their money. I wouldn't put it past teh fraudulent corrupt dirty ones at APD though. They are pretty stupid when it comes to morals, ethics, and common sense. They must have learned it from the top dog.

Anonymous said...

If I am correct didn't Chief Schultz say he didn't receive any money from the APOA when he was involved in a shooting?? So if he was involved in a shooting wouldn't he have been investigated and a Grand Jury convene to hear the evidence leading up to the shooting?? But now he says he isn't or wasn't aware of the Grand Jury procedures when hearing officer involved shooting cases??? One would think he would know first hand the GJ procedure.. Guess its just easier to ACT like your not aware.. But it makes the rest of us look foolish... Who the hell is running this place...

Anonymous said...

To 1:20 - The exact thing happened with me and the big mouth wife of a police officer that seems to be in trouble. She loves to start conflict then when you state your opinion and the fact that she may be why her husband gets in trouble the Fans of APD and Yes even the Eye will let her have her say, but when you respond they delete. Then they complain about the news media censoring their opinions. Back to that cops wife, and everyone knows who we are talking about needs to get a life, because living vicariously through her husband is laughable.

Not onmywatch said...

In reply to April 23, 2012 9:13:00

I agree with your post. The nature of the back in forth that I read on "Fans of" was between obviouse alias and an officers wife and I'm paraphrasing here;(alias), That it's one thing to be loving and supportive of your husband, but another to speak on matters of which she (wife) has no control over i.e. pending discipline of her husband. She then goes on after some back and forth between her and this alias of which he was never vulgar, or threatning to her he was at a minimum a smart aleck to her but he never threatend her.

I could not believe it when she posted the he (alias) would soon be out of a job because she "was thankful for technology" and gave the impression she knew who the (alias)person was and would soon be fired.

I feel sorry for the APD officer because as it has been posted before ALL officers have a very difficult job not just out in the streets dealing wiht the dregs of society, but the institution they work for creates a lot of issues for them as well and it is of NO HELP TO THE OFFICER when a family member who is overzealous and does live vicariously through her husband is adding more stress to him and bringing unnessarry attention to him and his profession.

p.s., It's my understanding this officer comes from a proud and storied family of officers. I've also heard the training academy is named after his family. It's sad he is allowing his wife to use his families last name to post ignorant rants, use vulgar language, to intimidate and threaten others on social media sites.

Anonymous said...

Lynette Hoisington here. To who ever has a hard on for me and my husband..GET OVER IT. It's becoming a little more than a little tiring hearing your rant about how I stick up for my husband. Do you feel threatened somehow? If so, why? Because you feel inferior in some way? You put yourself there, not me. Fair warning, back off. BTW, that's not a threat, it's exactly what it says it is, a WARNING. Get a fucking life.

Anonymous said...

My opinion if you have a conflict with another person talk to the face to face and not on face book or a blog. I'm pretty sure her husband's number is available he is issued a city cell phone call him and get her number and do it.

Anonymous said...

This is New Mexico. The land of passive aggressive pusses where nobody does anything face to face and when someone gets their feelings hurt they want to cry assault. This is why things are the way they are. Survival of the weakest!

Anonymous said...

April 26, 2012 8:24:00 PM MDT

Well put. It seems to me this person is hellbent on remaining anonymous but yet Mrs. Hoisington has no problem speaking openly. Sounds like she is dealing with a coward and should probably just ignore the bs.

Anonymous said...

Re: April 25, 2012 11:40:00 PM

After reading all the posts about Mrs Hoisington here yesterday, I decided to go over and try to find the posts referenced. I'm not sure I found the particular post being discussed, but I did find some other classless and tacky ramblings by this woman on a daily basis. I am also married to a police officer and I would never shame my husband and his badge by being so aggressive and hostile. I wish that Mrs Hoisington would understand that our husbands are "Albuquerque's Finest" and you better believe I stand behind my husband 100 percent. That means I will always act in a manner that is respectful to what my husband stands for.

Mrs Hoisington, you of all people are aware of the scrutiny the department has fallen under and I really hope that you take my comment as a suggestion. I would really appreciate that someone that is so vocal and a constant presence in this forum that members of the community would try to understand that our husbands, as public servants, work for them. We can support our men without being offensive to the rest of the world.

Obviously, my comment is anonymous and with good reason. I am not interested in being bullied and harassed by you. I implore you to adjust your attitude and be a better representation of an adult woman and a cops wife. If you can't, then please just shut up. Your "us against them" attitude represents everything the public hates about our cops and their families. Especially since its the exact opposite situation and WE work for THEM. If they want to comment, express concern, or even disagree with the actions of an officer or the whole department, as long as they do it fairly, they're allowed.

Judging by prior web altercations Mrs Hoisington has instigated with anyone that has a different opinion than her own, I am sure my comment will be disregarded, if its even approved. I also assure I don't have a hard on for you or your husband. I really just wish you would go away, or better yet be a positive example of an educated and respectable cops wife.

Anonymous said...

Thank you 11:52 - for your well thought out comment. I am one of those people that has openly defended APD. However, there are times when I believe the officers have been wrong. I have had family members and friends in law enforcement and I KNOW there job is difficult. I for one, couldn't do it and commend those that do. However, I don't expect to be harassed by an over zealous wife, who lives her life through her husband. When I have defended myself this site and Fans has censored my replies, but continually allows her comments. How can the public have trust in this site or any other when they do the same thing as the corrupt APD administration. I thank your husband and the other good officers for their service and hope APD rids themselves of the corrupt cops from the top down. Again, you've restored my faith that there are great cops out there and supportive (not destructive) family members. THANKS!

Anonymous said...

@ 5/2; 11:52 AM
5/2; 8:03 PM

I think both of you should be commended for your extremely well thought out and articulate comments. I too have sometimes come across rambling,disconnected, vulgar comments made by this venomous woman and you two have expressed the truth with far more class than I could ever have managed. Thank you for taking the time and making the effort. COPS ROCK!!!!

Anonymous said...

Wow, I like where this is going. Its nice to see other officer's wives can still have a voice and stand up for their family without having to be so brash and abrasive. Its also nice to see the officers correct the rude and offensive officers going off at the mouth on these threads. That's what I Like to see here. I know that supporting APD and being a "FAN" means appreciating and loving the cop. That doesn't always mean we have to agree with or condone bad behavior. What I personally want to see is a community who can respect and appreciate a department who works and fights at an individual level to become respectable and trusted leaders of the community.
Our cops and family members need to strive to do the right thing 100% of the time. I saw this somewhere a while ago and I feel that it is relevant. I know a lot of officers and officers wives may see this as weak. I know most will say that its not reality, but I also know that the most successful officers have the service mentality.

An innocent misunderstanding:

... "THE DEFENDANT: Officer, when you say there is nothing you can do about a certain situation, what do you mean? I was under the impression that an officer is above the law.
THE OFFICER: Quite the contrary, sir. I am really below the law. I am the shepherd of the law."

I wish that as woman, but more importantly a hard working member of this community, the officers from all departments, courts and our political figures would work to change their own mentality. The world is a scary place and we need these authority figures to be honorable and proud to serve the badge, the courts and their communities with grace under pressure. I doubt any of you officers left the academy on graduation day itching to become bullies and rude people. I doubt your wives and families prepared themselves to have a superior attitude to those community members whose tax dollars pay their bill and provide insurance and retirement for their families. Why not try showing appreciation for the community and those of us who are trying to show support when they make it really really difficult.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like a bunch of whiny women complaining to me. It's crazy to me to see how much time people invest in others lives. Makes you wonder what type of mentality is going on here?

Here's a quick fix to all you whiny women, get a life and don't worry about it. If you feel "bullied" over the internet then that is the first clue you are spending too much time on it. Another quick fix; get a hobby and stop worrying about what Mrs. Hoisington says, thinks, or does.

She is a big girl and allowed her own opinion. Sounds to me like the only people on here who are being bullies are the people who don't like being challenged or questioned.

Now there is a typical 5th floor behavior.

Anonymous said...

And APD wonders why they have public relation problems... Here you have other wives of officers saying to support your husband, but don't bring discredit to them and the rest of the team by acting like the foul mouthed un-educated thugs they deal with on a daily basis and you can't even agree with or support that????????????

APD from the top down is chalked full of amoral individuals. For a couple of years now all I've read on this site is how bad the Chief is. It's not just the Chief that presents APD with problems. It's a lot of officers cheating on their wives with (dispatchers), officers family members running their mouths at the public, untold amount of officers criminal behavior past/present, the selfish entitlment mentality of the majority of the department.

Their are great members of APD, but until the small minority of these officers step up and denounce all of these actions and work everyday to take back the once proud and storied department known as The Albuquerque Police Department it will remain the largest mistrusted and morally bankrupted police department in the state of New Mexico and that's saying a lot when you have the likes of Rio Arriba County Sheriffs office right up the road.

Anonymous said...

What type of person has the time or desire to carry out a year old dispute? Someone with a mental problem perhaps? Maybe a drunk is more like it. Get over it and move on. There are bigger issues, Costales.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know why the moderators of this blog allow such blatant attacks such as 1050, when it has nothing to do with that person. Sounds like they may be a jealous that he had the balls to go up against APD and win and they can only post here anonymously. You my friend are a PUNK!