Police have been getting to your door faster — but Police Chief Ray Schultz has been getting heat for that.The Journal's police beat reporter, T.J. Wilham, would have you believe that since officers have gone to the new 5 day a week - 8 hour a day schedule that they are arriving on your doorstep faster than they used to.
Schultz changed the work schedules for most officers in April, assigning them to work five days a week instead of four 10-hour days. The main reason, he said, was to improve response times.
As a result, officers have been vocal in opposition of the change, criticizing Schultz at staff meetings and on Internet blogs.
Since 2002, response times have increased. Last year, on average, it took APD 8.9 minutes to get to top priority calls. It took an average of 24.5 minutes for all calls combined.What Wilham doesn't tell you is that these average response times are from the time an officer is dispatched to the time they arrive on-scene. It absolutely does not mean that an officer will arrive 7.8 minutes from the time you call for help.
Since the new schedule was started, APD has been averaging 7.8 minutes for top priority calls and 15.2 minutes for all calls.
APD dispatch is kind of like a triage unit. They prioritize calls based on how dangerous the situation is to the caller and whether or not a crime is in progress. Dispatch holds lower priority calls and dispatches to high priority calls first. The problem is dispatch only has so many officers to work with. As a result, even Priority 1 calls stack waiting for officers to clear.
"Folks when I started this job [2]7 years ago, we were stacking calls. When Joe Bowdich started his job they were stacking calls. Who cares? Who cares if calls are waiting? I don't care if calls are holding."As you can tell, Chief Schultz isn't overly concerned about waiting calls - just how long it takes from dispatch to arrival. Sure those numbers are important, but they're just part of the picture.
Our Eyes behind the badge tell us that the primary reason that the average dispatch time has been reduced is because the 5-8 schedule allowed Ray and Company to staff a 6th Area Command. That 1.1 minute reduction in "response time" is primarily due to geography. Officers simply don't have as far to go to reach their destinations.
You're probably thinking that the move to 5-8s could be considered a success - it isn't. Marty and Ray simply exchanged officer fatigue and morale for a minimal gain in response times that may have nothing to do with the schedule changes.
The move to 5-8s was a desperate move to conceal the fact that APD is understaffed - a situation that despite new contracts and advertising campaigns, The Almighty Alcalde and the 5th Floor have failed to rectify. The fact is calls are still stacking and people needing help are still in danger despite the Journal's misleading story and despite the Chief's misleading numbers.
----- Correction -----
We originally indicated that the move to 5-8s was to allow the staffing of a 5th area command. Ooops! We meant 6th area command. It has been corrected above.
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I don't know how fast or slow the response times are for APD but I do know that I had called 911 late at night when I had arrived home from work recently. My dog had awaken my wife and there were two suspicious individuals a couple of houses up the street. Rightly so, the dispatcher tried to determine the urgency of my call. I told her, I had counted about six patrol cars on the main streets while driving home. It appeared like they all needed something more constructive to do.
Could someone refresh my memory on how we came to have Schultz at APD? Wasn't he imported from Arizona or somewhere?
I don't feel APD is understaffed at all. I see plenty of patrol cars, service aids, etc. in a wide variety of vehicles on a daily basis. Meanwhile in Los Angeles where I am from one can go the entire day and not see a police car. I'm sure the officer to resident ratio is infinitely better here in Albuquerque, yet despite all the officers Albuquerque leads L.A. in most crime statistics by a wide margin (per population). Problem is we're arresting the same people time and time again. There seems to be little/no fear of the consequences of being arrested here; it's all a big game so there is a criminal mentality here. Half the people have had run-ins with the law in one form or another. Talk to your waiter the next time you're at a restaurant and chances are they've been booked in one detention center or another. There are over 10,000 fugitives here. I think a lot of people are kept employed with the revolving door/lenient system here in Bernalillo County so everyone marches on with "the system".
Maybe you field guys should start taking the long way to NON-PRIORITY calls. Get some coffee.... stop to watch the sunset.... maybe you will get your 4 10's back. Hate to tell you, vote of no confidence doesn't mean Ray is gone.. The Mayor decides that and the Mayor picked him because he was most willing to do his bidding...
We know TJ gets the inside scoop because he writes the story the way the 5th floor wants it...The public has already painted a picture of a bunch of whiners because of what was written in the paper. I hear the SO is down 40 something people....last one there is a rotten egg
Ok fine, if we have to work 5-8s then so be it. But for God's sake, at least let us have our 2 day weekend off! I have Mondays and Tuesdays "off" and spend both days if court. My family and I can't even leave town. This is not just something that happens sometimes. It's every week.
It was to staff the SIXTH area command NOT the fifth...
This article was nothing more than a handjob...officers have been able to look at calls holding for at least all but the 1st year of my 11 years on. There ARE NOT more officers on the street...look at the bid lists for the last eight years and things are more or less the same and I don't know of a single squad that has grown in size since this year's bid. The new computer system is an absolute piece of shit and causes DELAYS for responding units and CREATES hazards...
Any other city would've cleaned house from the top down..WAKE UP ALBUQUERQUE!!!
P.S. I do love that new Hummer for APD's Search and Rescue team...that was money well spent and completely justified I'm sure.
pissed off and mad..
well said!
the computers are such a piece of garbage. the chief is so high and mighty, he cant admit he screwed up and spent millions of dollars for the city that is complete crap!
we need to clean house!
Lets start!
We had less cops per capita in the 60's & 70's. The problems we think we have now were not problems then. I think we are overstating our need for more police help. We don't need the police force every time we have a minor problem! They are assigned on unnecessary patrols every day. Give them a break!
SO WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE LEVI CHAVEZ CASE OR THE DANIEL GUZMAN CASE OR THE TWO K-9 OFFICERS WHO GOT ARRESTED CASE OR EVEN THE OFFICER WHO KICKED THE SHIT OUT OF A OVERWEIGHT MAN AND WOMAN CASE. OR WHAT ABOUT THE CASE INVOLVING MARSHALL KATZ EMBEZZLING OR HOW ABOUT THE NICK BAKAS CASE WITH JASON DASKALOS. OR HOW ABOUT THE CASE INVOLVING THE SPEED VAN. OR HOW THE CITY AND APD ARE THE NEW VERSION OF THE SOPRANOS
last post.lets see whats happening:
levi chavez- on paid leave while the investigation is occurring. even if homicide is never proven, how about conduct unbecoming for both him and his new wife?
guzman- he was fired by teh chief, despite guzman doing what he was told by a supervisor to do-- who was on scene. The IRO investigator never interviewed the two witnesses there and the newsman was caught lying on tape reference his camera
k9- these guys are getting hammered by the arkansas judicial system, which is a joke and then treated like crap by ray here. NO SUPPORT
The response times have nothing to do with the 8 hour schedule...they have to do with the fact that the chief doubled the number of officers on the west side and cut the driving distance in half. Saving the 15 minute drive from south to north will cut the times and skew the overall average. A study needs to be done with the numbers only from the SE, NE, VA, and FH....I believe that those numbers will be more accurate and more reflective of the "efficiency" of the 8 hour schedule. Each of the other area commands was stripped of a full squad and are trying to answer the same amount of calls with less people. The numbers, by area command, need to be released. If those numbers are publicized...then the citizens of the other 2/3 of the city will see how much the chief cares about response times. Also a full study of all response times...not only priority 1 calls...but all calls dispatched...to show the actual response times...from TIME OF CALL to TIME OF ARRIVAL...not TIME OF DISPATCH. Nobody cares how long it takes an officer to drive to their house...citizens care about how long it takes an officer to arrive once a call is made to 911
There is a rumor that the dispatchers are logging officers as "arrived" on calls, prior to the officers actual arrival. If officers are dispatched to a call...and while enroute...hear a small chime from the KDT, they should check status and see if they are logged as "arrived".
Re: There seems to be little/no fear of the consequences of being arrested here ...
It's not the same people always getting arrested. The problem is the innocent are being arrested too ... That is why they get off and are found not guilty of any crimes in court ... Because of the lack of wisdom or common sense from APD & company, this has also bogged down the court system, and made the detention centers full of the wrong people ...
TJ Wilham wrote the the story to cover Schultz who might be getting a vote of no confidence at this Thursday's meeting. Schultz and company knew it was coming and since TJ owes Schultz for a cover up for TJ. TJ repayed Schultz by writing the story to try and help Schultz take less of a blow.
Schultz could care less about the citizens or officers on his dept.
The vote is just not about the 5-8 schedule, but Schultz' poor attitude and arrogant behavior towards everyone.
When 98 % of your officers hate you even before the 5-8 schedule. That tells you something about the Chief!
Why won't the paper put out the recording about Schultz saying he didn't care. The citizens have a right to know. TJ had Schultz cover up a crime he commited and now Schultz owns TJ!!!!!!!
One thing the Chief and the 5th floor don't seem to understand is that the officers are the best recruiting tool there is. If you help provide them with a good working environment then they are going to show that it is a great place to be and people will want to join. Keep them working 5-8's (which is obviously what they don't want and something that has put morale at an all time low) and that is never going to happen.
speedvan ticket continued again until December. let you know when its over.
The hummer was seized by the 47 unit. It was ordered by the chief to be given to the search and rescue team.
Sopranos huh?? Evidently someone watches too much television. We're here to discuss real problems grow up peter pan. Innocent until proven guilty for the public and guilty until proven innocent for police officers. That doesn't seem fair. APD does need some change up top. It's not perfect but it's the only one we have. The public needs to be informed, not these dramatic misleading newspaper articles.
Chief Schultz is not a good man! I have about six years on this dept. I came on about 6 months before Chief Gallegos left. Chief Gallegos may not have done things legally, but at least he talked to the officers and was friendly and not cocky and arrogant. He seemed to care about his officers.
Chief Schultz on the other hand also does some pretty shady stuff, but is a total jerk to all the officers! He walks around like he is a god. Given the choice, I would rather have Gallegos back. Yeah, we don't like the new schedule, but that is just a little of why Chief Schultz is so hated by us. He is just not a good Chief for APD or the City of Albuquerque. He does not care about this city or its officers and it shows in his briefings!
He lies about everything! Where are all the officers he has claimed to have hired, not taking calls for service! Are squads are the smallest I have seen in the six years I have been here.
Chief, WHERE ARE ALL THE OFFICERS YOU CLAIMED TO HAVE HIRED!
Hey Journal, don't let this Chief fool you, we don't have the officers they say we do. We are lucky if we have 900 officers. Calls are still holding like crazy, worse than ever before.
Journal Reporter, If you have any self worth, you will print the TRUTH and not try to protect this Chief.
Response times down, I say BULLSHIT! What dept are they working for.
I have really never gone to the APOA meetings, but if they vote against this Chief, I will be there to vote NO CONFIDENCE on him.
Again, not because of the schedule change, but because he is not an honest man! The Chief is not true to the oath he took to this city.
Example, look at our violent crime and murder rate. It's through the roof! This chief has done nothing, but manipulate numbers to show in his favor.
For those that try and slam me, I have been officer of the month and am usually the highest producer in my squad. I never miss court or speak up in briefings. I jump calls all the time. However, I just can't stand by and watch the lies continue by this Chief and his Deputy Chiefs. Enough is enough!
My entire squad feels the same, as does our watch, even the sgts! No one likes this Chief!
APD officers who you see driving on the main streets or the ones you see on a daily basis are responding to calls for service. I for one am tired of constantly apologizing to citizens for the long wait in response to their call. We do not have enough officers and there are less offficers to citizens here than in L.A. here are some of the " Priority 1" calls as mandated by the Chief and MAyor. A drunk passed out on the sidewalk is a P1. Any call where Rescue is dispatched to is a P1. A dog locked in a car regardless of weather conditions is a P1. The domestic violence calls, not unlike the Reagensburg case, are mostly still priority 2 calls. Calls hold a very long time due to the lack of sufficient manpower. We try to clear them as fast as possible, even asking for calls before being dispatched. The problem is that most calls take time to investigate and reports must be completed on these calls. There is a trend across the U.S. within the law enforcement community regarding reponse times and efficienct scheduling to improve this. Most agencies have gone from 5-8's to 4-10's or the more eficient 3-12 schedule. Most every law enforcement agency in the U.S. is suffering from manpower shortages and they have taken scheduling steps to compensate for this. APD, on the other hand has gone backwards to the less efficient 5-8 schedule. There are other agencies within N.M. that have already tried the 5-8 schedule and found it to be inefficient. These agencies are now on the 3-12 schedule.
Several posts up..there is a REASON BCSO is 40 down..have you noticed who is running (or NOT running) that place???
It's as bad at SO as it is at APD.
Reference the Hummer. It was rightfully seized by teh seizure unit. Of course, Ray took that that away from them. The seziure unit is one of the best this dept. has ever had. When is the last time search and rescue did anything significant, really. I think the seizure unit deserves it back. Way to spit on the units face, thanks Ray!
VOTE NO CONFIDENCE THURSDAY
As a citizen looking in, I wonder why this mayor has not looked into these rampant issues caused by the APD Chief. The mayor will not get my vote next time around! He can't even keep a clean house.
There is some political talk indicating that even if Marty stays Commander Candelaria will be the next Chief of APD.
Get a clue you bunch of cry babies! Nobody hired you to "Like the Chief" We hired you to do a job! If you don't like working for the City or the Chief,,,,QUIT! and go try to find a job somewhere else!!!
"Get a clue you bunch of cry babies! Nobody hired you to "Like the Chief" We hired you to do a job! If you don't like working for the City or the Chief,,,,QUIT! and go try to find a job somewhere else!!!"
Scott Lopez is a great example of a FOLLOWER of this philosophy. Catch any footchases lately? Get any plasma screen tv's lately? Still got hard feelings about eating lunch by yourself at school?
We wont quit and we will continue bitching about how much you suck...so get over it!
PS: Well done seizure dudes...SAR is a joke like Open Space--there I said it--...don't worry we know who the real workers are in this place...
Get a clue you bunch of cry babies! Nobody hired you to "Like the Chief" We hired you to do a job! If you don't like working for the City or the Chief,,,,QUIT! and go try to find a job somewhere else!!!
hahah that has Castro written all over it. Especially making refernce "we hired you". Let me correct you, you did not hire me, if you did, I would have quite a long time ago,
We are not whining, we are standing up for what is right. We are not going to let you push us around anymore
THURSDAY
It is too bad that citizens do not get the opportunity to participate in votes of no confidence.
I would vote Schultz out in a heartbeat.
"There is some political talk indicating that even if Marty stays Commander Candelaria will be the next Chief of APD"
Candelaria does have the right credentials, didn't he shred Martys tickets a few years back?
I am a new officer and I like Chief Schultz and Mayor Marty. He's our kinda Mayor!
Its hard to believe a "new officer" would be pro-marty and pro-schultz. I hear none of the new officers are getting their sign on bonus. Oh, and kiss the $28/hr goodbye. Did you not read the fine print in the contract that said the city's budget needed to be in a surplus as part of the agreement?
This is for a certain deputy chief who will remain nameless. He knows
Would you like to see my camera phone, a picture of you and your former "lover" on it. Too bad she is not around any longer to verify. You pretend to be high and mighty and now my good friend is gone, and you left her broken hearted. I know your game. When the time is right, the proof will be leaked.
ANON 4:15....What the hell is that last post? Is it necessary? What is a shame is that your chosing to involve yourself in a relationship you were not in.
I would like to know what DC it was as well as the other officers.
Yo dude! just hang tight for a few months and this 80's management style will be fazed out with the next mayor's election.
There will be a new chief with new fresh ideas. One that respects this dept and its officers.
I'll bet that Deputy Chief on your photo is none other than M.C.
Related to the above post. I guess now, Officer Rob Debuck has become an item with retired Lt Mercado. those guys just don't stop!
I think we should leave names out of this. As we know affairs are rampant and the 5th floor does not care, hell they are participating in a lot.
What happened to all the talk of No Confidence against the mean ol chief? Wasn't that vote Thursday?
You PD guys should feel lucky...The S.O. just had their shift bid and they bid 71 people for the field. 71 people for three area commands... Some shifts have only 7 people on them. For areas like the South Valley where it ranges from Rio Puerco to i-25 to Isleta res. to central. Or the North Valley, those guys go from Paradise Hills to Sandia Foothills and Sandia Res. to Candelaria (In some Spots) Then you got East where they got 600 sq miles to patrol. So 7 people on a squad and you figure 2 off a night.... We'd give anything for your numbers... We got like 16 cadets still on FTO and that will make 87 people until we have 8 more retirements this year....and no one testing cause you got better pay... so it could be worse
I think all the names should be named, if nothing else, maybe they'll think twice before they cheat, to paraphrase that C/W song.
What happened with the no confidence vote? Did it happen or no?
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Chief Schultz will cost Mayor Chavez the next election for Mayor!
Hey Chief, when are you going to do something with our Homicide Unit, they suck, the bottom line, no doubt about it. Did you see the Metro section of the Journal on Saturday, now everyone is going to know how bad we are. Oh and if you try to bring up the clearance rate, please those numbers are manipulated by the agency who submitted them, wouldn't that be APD. Those plush offices you lazy cops are sitting in don't make you a good detective. Wake up Chief and McCabe.
Wow, someone really doesn't like Lopez, dont have any respect to call him Lt. Lopez, what a joke. Have you noticed all the traffic citations he issues are to young girls with a large chest. I bet he is the only Lt that issues that many citations. Maybe somone needs to check into that, I know for a fact it is true. Get the citation and get the girls DL picture, you will see a pattern. Oh, Lopez, don't stop now, because the evidence is already there. Lets see if anyone does anything about it. Hey, I need a TV, can you help a bro out?
Deputy Chief Castro needs to retire. He is bad for this department. He has lowered our standards way low just so he can keep his job! The chief is a disgrace to our department. He is also a very arrogant pri*k!
Schultz did retire from APD as a deputy Chief. He applied for and became a DC in Scottsdale AZ. However, when Chief Gallegos became involved with the girls in the evidence room, and lost his job as a result. Nick Bakas and Capt Debuck had the Mayor bring Schultz back. Well, you can see how good that has turned out for APD. Our morale is the lowest it's ever been. This administrtion embellishes the truth and makes up false numbers of officers, violates officer's rights and the list continues on. First chief in history to get a vote of no confidence by the officers.
DC Mike Castro has been taking a beating by the 11th floor for not increasing APD's numbers. He walks around the Academy with his head held low like some one just beat him with an ugly stick. Look at how much that poor guy has aged, not to mention the chief as well. Well,,,,,,that's what happens when you sell your soul to the devil. The chief and DC Casto are paying a high toll for compromising their intergrity and that of the department's hiring standards. That is one of the reason the troops have absolutely no respect for these guys. Boys, if you lay with dogs, you're going to get fleas!
I have also heard that Comdr Candelaria will be the next Chief if Mayor Marty wins his re-election. However, we all know he won't, but I still think Candelaria will get the nod from others. That means there will be a mass firing of the 5th floor! That guy will clean house and get rid of all the corruption up there! We can only hope and pray for a brighter future for APD, something to bring us out of these dark times!
Don't know about Cpt Candelaria, but I know DC Castro is working the next Chief's job hard!
Things really are not good here at APD. However, what bugs me the most is that instead of management trying to address ALL or even some of the issues, they stick their heads in the sand and tell everyone that things are fine.
Well Folks, things are not fine. The only response management can give, is if you don't like it go work somewhere else. We all know, including them that is not going to happen, at least for the majority of home grown officers. Management will all be gone in a year, thank goodness! However, in the mean time, any manager worth his salt would be trying to fix or at the very least address the issues and work together with the officers in an effort to make things better. Not this 5th floor, their response every time is leave. What kind of management style is that! I am not saying they can fix everything, but at least show the officers you care. If you did you would not have the serious morale problems you do here on APD. You guys were once young, how would you like to be treated! Also, remember the generation gap. This is no longer the 1970's and 80's. Our generations have evolved and so must your management style if APD is to grow and flurish.
Please just don't walk around trying to intimidate everyone with losing their job or telling them to leave. A manager's job is to manage, not bully your employee's. It would be nice if you practiced do as I do, but APD is, do as I say, not as I do.
Come on 5th floor. You have one year left, try and address some issues. This dept has become all about personal agenda's. We need to put the department first for a change and it HAS to start from the TOP down! How do you want to be remembered, as a leader or an A*&- hole!
The APD can't take four more years of Ray Schultz. Debbie Kudis for Chief! She still cares about this dept.
Oh,,, that will piss Ray off. He hates women in powerful positions of authority. Don't beleive me, look at his command staff....... He chased the last two good female captians out the door because he would not promote a female to deputy chief. They were much better choices than all the males he promoted. He only promotes males.
you know what happened thursday, our new APOA president, Fred Mowrer jumped in. HE is so far into marty and rays pocket it isnt even funny. He gave these officers hope that having a meeting with the chief will help. Give me a break, he doesnt give a crap about any of us. These officers are goign to go to him and expect him to listen. Joey and Ron and Fred all talk bad about the Chief, about everythign he says and does and then BOOM, they have coffee and a hug.Hey Fred, did Marty and Ray at least get a reach around? Seems like you guys are giving it to us in the a--
How about everyone go to Sgt. Paul Hey and tell him we support him for Mayor. I know hell change this city around!
Did anyone catch 48 hours this weekend about the double murder in Paradise Hills. The reporter made an allegation that someone on APD planted evidence on the suspect. Her evidence was pretty convincing and John Walsh had no response.
Will Schultz open an Internal Affiars investigation regarding how the 9mm casing got into this guys duffle bag?
Thanks for the reminder about the city council approval for the contract. Keep in mind that the next step of the raise will be approved the mayoral election year of 2009 and the other portion will be approved during the next rounds of city council elections in 2010. Unless someone wants to comit political suicide....then the salary/wage portions of the budget should be fine.
Ask your mayoral candidate or a coucil candidate if they plan on voting against a raise for public safety in a city which is overrun with crime...their constituents would hang them alive.
The no confidence vote fell apart! Two officers and a sergeant said they dont like the chief, another couple officers and a sergeant said hold off and think about what your thinkn bout doing.
End result: barely enough for a quarum and the few that were there said nothing. There were crickets in the house when it came to the chief.
Guess its not as bad as all the bloggers make it out to be! Chief Schultz is here to stay.
I just read the front page of the Journal and just wanted to say THANKS CHIEF. What a stand up guy, it takes a lot of BALLS to throw 1100 officers under the bus. First off, how dare you say the cases are "thrown out". These cases are plead and more times than not dismissed after the defendant has fullfilled some sort of prearranged responsibility (i.e., ASPEN, Victim impact, fine, no further trouble, etc). Chief you made it seem like the officers are in the wrong, the public is in the right. Citizens of Albuquerque, let me clarify something.It is NOT ok to disobey an officer. it is NOT ok to have a lit cigarette while in an encounter with an officer. It is NOT ok to throw things at an officer. How dare you Chief make examples out of Guzman. Officer Guzman asked for help from his chain over three times. Mr. Foley (newsman) refused to put his camera down, which was shining a bright flash right in Guzmans eyes. Guzman asked him to put it down, he refused. SWAT Lt, told Guzman over the air to handle it, despite Guzman asking the chain to fix it. On the tape that Foley provided you can hear foley say , "i will not put my camera down." Yet, when interviewed Foley stated Guzman never asked him to put the camera down. LIES. We need to vote Ray OUT of office, this is beyond ridiculous. Hey Ray, you have thrown us under the bus, now its your turn. Should we talk about the affairs, the tantrums, the phone calls, the emails, the harassment, the intimidation techniques you use (followig officers), the lies you have told. The women that work with you that get the "special treatment". The fact you tell Nadine to go to the union meeting so she could report to you what was being said.
Enough is enough. Citizens, Chief is hurting hurting you, he is hurting us. He is not allowing us to be productive , flourishing officers. Chief, I challenge you........I challenge you to be a cop for one day.. just one.. see how it feels. you arent a cop and never have been.
Furthermore, Fred Mowrer, you should be ashamed. You tell us time and time again how the Chief is wrong and how ignorant he is. you tell us that the firing of Guzman was "bullshit" and purely motivated by the media. You tell us that the Chief does whatever, to whomever, no matter what rules he is breaking. You then turn around and have lunch with Ray, agreeing wtih him about how terrible the officers are. We are paying you to represent us, not to be best friends to the Ray and Marty. Shoot, the way you meet with them, I would expect you to be their children's godfather. You certainly arent here for us. VOTE RAY< MARTY AND FRED OUT IMMEDIATELY>
I just read the front page of the Journal and just wanted to say THANKS CHIEF. What a stand up guy, it takes a lot of BALLS to throw 1100 officers under the bus. First off, how dare you say the cases are "thrown out". These cases are plead and more times than not dismissed after the defendant has fullfilled some sort of prearranged responsibility (i.e., ASPEN, Victim impact, fine, no further trouble, etc). Chief you made it seem like the officers are in the wrong, the public is in the right. Citizens of Albuquerque, let me clarify something.It is NOT ok to disobey an officer. it is NOT ok to have a lit cigarette while in an encounter with an officer. It is NOT ok to throw things at an officer. How dare you Chief make examples out of Guzman. Officer Guzman asked for help from his chain over three times. Mr. Foley (newsman) refused to put his camera down, which was shining a bright flash right in Guzmans eyes. Guzman asked him to put it down, he refused. SWAT Lt, told Guzman over the air to handle it, despite Guzman asking the chain to fix it. On the tape that Foley provided you can hear foley say , "i will not put my camera down." Yet, when interviewed Foley stated Guzman never asked him to put the camera down. LIES. We need to vote Ray OUT of office, this is beyond ridiculous. Hey Ray, you have thrown us under the bus, now its your turn. Should we talk about the affairs, the tantrums, the phone calls, the emails, the harassment, the intimidation techniques you use (followig officers), the lies you have told. The women that work with you that get the "special treatment". The fact you tell Nadine to go to the union meeting so she could report to you what was being said.
Enough is enough. Citizens, Chief is hurting hurting you, he is hurting us. He is not allowing us to be productive , flourishing officers. Chief, I challenge you........I challenge you to be a cop for one day.. just one.. see how it feels. you arent a cop and never have been.
Furthermore, Fred Mowrer, you should be ashamed. You tell us time and time again how the Chief is wrong and how ignorant he is. you tell us that the firing of Guzman was "bullshit" and purely motivated by the media. You tell us that the Chief does whatever, to whomever, no matter what rules he is breaking. You then turn around and have lunch with Ray, agreeing wtih him about how terrible the officers are. We are paying you to represent us, not to be best friends to the Ray and Marty. Shoot, the way you meet with them, I would expect you to be their children's godfather. You certainly arent here for us. VOTE RAY< MARTY AND FRED OUT IMMEDIATELY>
Captain John Debuck is still at APD????? Now there is a piece of lazy dead wood that should retire and get out. That guy is so worthless and cheap! You also need to watch your back around that guy. He is as two faced as they come! He really has a nasty habit of back stabbing all his close friends.
Debbie Kudis for chief???? Are you insane? That lap-dog rhino is dumber than a box of rocks. In case you haven't kept track, she was fired from UNMPD for catering and promoting from a distinct class of rainbow warriors.
Why is Ron Olivas president of the APOA?
He's rarely seen and shows NO LEADERSHIP whatsoever
..where are the "President's weekly updates?"
..where is he with the sorting out the APOA's budget?
Ron...so what if people tear apart your posts...at least you'll be visible as what you are...President of the APOA.
Sounds like Ray is hiring from the same class as well, ALL MALE!!!!!
Good point about 48 hours. Once again, we are a laughing stock.
APOA sucks! We need to get some of the old timer union leaders back leading our union, they had balls, were not afraid to speak out.
Remember the pickets? Remember officers packing the city council meetings? Perhaps most of us don't show up to the union meetings because this union leadership sucks! Have any of you idiots thought about that before shitting on the membership?
Clean house with APD? How about cleaning house with APOA?
waaa waaa i hate the chief we should vote him out! where were all u whiners???? guess its not that bad eh?
nadine thanks for being there to let the chief know who had his back & who didnt!
tell him that meeting was a joke and nothing was accomplished.
well football is fun cause u never know whats gonna happen. at apd nothing ever changes.
November 25, 2008 5:47:00 AM MST
In Germany, they have a name for someone like you ... GESTAPO
Oh how cute, Castro is sending friendly, caring, responsible citywide emails to all his “troops“. The transparency is killing me hahahahahahahaha. Yo dude save face and leave quietly and maybe you will be accepted enough to be a rehire as a kindergarten cop…
Nadine walked in so smug, text messaging the Chief. She is a joke and a rat
Im not PD, but I saw the 48 hours. I have ADD so i was not really looking where the attorney wanted me to look, so I happen to notice a shell casing under neath the pens in the bag.....I would assume it rolled into the corner when they started taking stuff out. And the F.I. having integrity, took the picture where the shell ended up instead of moving it back to its' previous position. I am upset that BRandenburg did not defend PD and say that she has faith that PD did not place the shell casing there instead of saying, "Ha Ha anything is possible" Look at the video again, you will see the casing in the bottom of the pictures
APOA elections are coming up in the near future. If you are that disgruntled then step up to the plate and run for office. If you get elected all will be watching for the changes you state are needed. If you don't get elected then you are a member of the disgruntled few. I will be watching the process to see if you have the guts to run, the backing to win, and the influence to affect the much needed change you say is due. If this doesn't then either retire (if your eligible) or just quit and find another profession you can constantly complain about.
"APOA elections are coming up in the near future. If you are that disgruntled then step up to the plate and run for office."
You are probably the same person who said that all the APD brass says when we complain is "if you don't like it quit," but APOA does says the same thing when we complain about the lame union, that is why our department is so fucked up!!!!
Then quit the union or run for an APOA office instead of complaining on a blog....Would you like a little cheese with your whine?
Then quit the union or run for an APOA office instead of complaining on a blog....Would you like a little cheese with your whine?
You are the APOA. Look in the mirror and smack yourself in the face for not doing anymore than bitching on this blog.
Im just pissed that Ron hasnt spoken up for us. All eh had to do was get an ad or write a rebuttal in the editorial. He is protected, we can voice our opinions and the facts behind this crappy administration like he can.
Great editorial by Jeff Varela in the Albuquerque Journal today (November 28). He hits it right on the head with the state pensions.
"...all will be watching for the changes you state are needed." I'd be happy just getting an open and obvious display of effort.
I can't make my calls with the shity fuel in my car, AFD is having the same problem. Small shop super says Fleet Manager Tony reports tens of thousands of repair bills! Who is supplying this cheap fuel? someone is going to die, with a no response, because of bad gas/diesel!
It's funny how these idiotic union goons get so defensive when disatisfied members complain about this lame union, but yet they do the exact same thing to APD on this blog all the time.
I would laugh if it wasn't such a disgrace!
Anonymous: I really like Anonymous
Cry Cry Cry!!! O shit I'm Anonymous too!!!
u have no union ... only kaos
apd is at an all time low. our union is doing nothing to back us up. is there anyone to stand up and voice it to the community. is there anyone not afraid to stand up to the chief?
The PIO, now there is a worthless POS. That peron was banned from ever applying to APD, so she went to Open Space then laterals in when APD dropped all the standards and her friend Det Martinez was in recruiting. Now all she does is case problems for married officers and be the chief's little rat amoung other things to bad to mention. Why doesn't that old lady retire. Her face is way to wrinked and weathered. It looks like old leather. What is she going to do when the chief is gone? She comes to our meetings just to get names for the chief. What goes around comes around rat.
The unfortunate problem for ron is he has losers like you who wont quit and go elsewhere, continuously sniping from your anonymous perch. it can never be perfect,never will, but hes got a lot more balls and guts to handle things than you ever will, and i disagree with some things hes done, but i applaud a bunch of other things the board has accomplished. but unlike you, i tell them to thier face.........you are the problem on our department, you should take that badge off
Nadine, aka, PIO, has been passed around the block to many times to count and is as worthless as they come. When she was in traffic, all we did was take her calls while she hung out and serviced the brass.
I see she is still doing that on the 5th floor.
I posted this before and I will post it again since it seems to be time again to look for new union representation and to have someone from the outside and who's job cannot be taken by the administration. We met and talked with them about representing us (Aviation Police), we were ready to go but they suggested that we wait to see if there were improvements to APOA, the contract and with the City:
New Mexico Coalition of Public Safety Officers
(505) 761-9898
Your PIO is a joke. We all at AFD laugh at her!!!! How hard up your dept must be, no pon intended. she is a disgrace to your badge.
Our PIO thinks she's everything and a bag of chips. Get out! She bites!
Nadine may have been some thing in the day, but not today. Really, the 5th floor could have picked a much younger, better looking, better spoken lady than our current pio.
Well, maybe some of the really old timers might like her, but to the young guys, she is an old worn out glove.
Come on, we have an image to maintain. She really hurts it.
Hey Aviation Police dudes take your phone numbers and your people and do everyone a favor and quit the APOA. There’s like 15 of you and all you do is complain, I guess its pretty rough life cruising around the airport chasing tail, so please leave the APOA we’ll all be better off when you leave.
there arent any cops at aviation police,only snivelers and wanna bes, who happen to make good money for doing nothing. I highly recommend you guys go do your own thing, then let us know how it works out for you........especially the 11.50 an hour you make
my god nadine just quit already! are u trying to compete w/ al walck & louie armijo as staying on the longest?
beth was the best pio, trish was awful-the worst- and nadine...not as bad as trish but not great.
For you APOA posters who hold APOA positions you should be ashamed of yourselves. You slam fellow 54's and you slam city hall, you slam citizen's you slam everyone but yourselves for what fellow 54's are complaining about. When is the last time a legitimate quorum was met at an APOA meeting? The ask why are not other 54's showing up, maybe because they do not support your blame shifting agenda any longer. Proof is in the postings, look at them....then do us all a favor resign your office in APOA and let someone take over who actually cares about the oath of office.....integrity...honesty.. and standing up for those who put you there in the first place....not city hall nor the chief. Get with the times and stop trying to act like CEO's, you are suppose to be COPs so act like it.
No wonder the public questions and doubts the 99% of good cops out there, it's because of the 1% like you.....you suck..get out, everyone is mad as hell and they aint gonna take your Shit no more......You think that buying things with APOA dues paying membership funds for things such as high dollar cigars, nice expensive meals and Starbuck coffees for your select few makes you feel and think you are actually liked...HaHa...get out and do us real 54's and the citizens of Albquerque get out of police work cause your are fooling yourselves when you think it's your way (or managements) or the highway.....be gone and give the citizens a refund on the waisted taxes they paid for your worthless ingrate/ self-serving, self-love, egotistical, mean spirited and selfish service.
Apparently the poster at 10:41 am didn't pay attention during the 10 code part of the Academy, it's 34 not 54!
I have been on this Department for 6 years now and I have something to say.
I was in the military and am used to hearing people complain about their job so it doesn't bother me. What bothers me is all the mudslinging. The good thing about this job, unlike the military, is you can do something to change it. I wonder if everyone spent as much energy to complain as they did to try to change things, what would be accomplished. I see nothing but a lot of hatred in quite a few of these posts.
Everyone is complaining that the union doesn't do anything, Ron is hiding, or the Chief and Mayor hate us. I really have no doubt that we could have a better Chief but don't believe that he is the Devil incarnate like he is made out to be. I know Ron personally and I would go to the wall for him or with him. The mayor, I agree on a lot of the comments, he should be investigated or whatever to find out if he is as corrupt as he is made out to be.
I guess what I'm trying to say is this, quit complaining and griping unless you have worn their shoes and walked in them. Complaining and griping accomplishes nothing but causing dissent among the troops. Do something about it if you think it's really that bad. I for one enjoy my job, yes I think 5/8's are a horrible idea but what can you do.
Everyday I see more name calling and hatred on here than anywhere. Citizens read this as well and who knows what they're thinking about this Department because of these posts. It is just very unprofessional.
Even in bad times we must band together if a change is going to be made. The best way to change that I can see is the upcoming election, get out and vote and do something instead of complaining about it.
You’re absolutely right you real 54 you, get a clue idiot, don’t claim to be something you’re not, you have no clue what you’re talking about. Perhaps you should give society a refund for all the precious oxygen you’re stealing from us.
Nadine, the grandmother of two little girls has about 27 years with the city. She should leave, but won't because she will not get anymore old men to date! She uses her job to get dates. Once the job is gone, so are the dates.
Someone please teach your PIO to speak ENGLISH, not Spanglish. Ok bro. Enough said.
.... it's 34s not 54s ... got it?
The above poster is right but were 34s not 54s. rock on though.
I love a site that attracts worthless people like the real 54 to try to create divide the organization. Pretending to be an officer is a crime. Being an idiot is not...so in your case you are safe.
I guess you did not get it> 34's was interchanged with 54's....it seems that you make a joke/spectical of all other 34's and thus the parody/spoof of using 54's instead. In other words, you make a joke of us all "Ron", when was the last time you made a 54 let alone wrote a citation or arrested someone on your own since you have been in that cake position????? Gee how did you get That?????!!!
"Car 54 where are you" CAR54, WHERE ARE YOU? is an inspired comedy - inspired, that is, by the 1960’s Joe E. Ross/Fred Gwynne television series.
Joe E. Ross as Officer Gunther Toody
Fred Gwynne as Officer Francis Muldoon
I think we should go back to following the constitution rather than what we were taught. We would have less problems then!
Can't wait until Cmdr Candelaria becomes the next APD Chief and fires Ray Shultz and his Deputy Chiefs. APD needs to clear out all the corruption on the chief's office.
Capt'n Candelaria would be better than the arrogant moron(Schultz) we have now.
I also heard he might be the next chief. Not saying Candelaria would be the best choice for chief, but it would sure be a step in the right direction and much better than what we have.
There are some great leaders out there who retired, we just need to get them to show some interest in the job for the next APD Chief.
APD's PIO is as dumb as a rock. They really must have scrapped the bottom of the barrel for that one!
Also, someone please teach her how to speak in public.
Our commander is much smarter than those guys on the 5th floor with all their fly by night mail order degrees. Not one of them went to a real college. Our commander is even a part time professor at a major university. Plus, his degree is from a real university, not mail ordered.
Those chiefs just need to leave, as they are not good for APD's future. All they have done is tarnish the name.
To all the people that read this blog. How would you like to work for someone that does not care how hard you work, will not even talk to you or say good job, is very condescending towards you, seeks NO input to improve working conditions, violates employee rights every day, is very self serving and is extremely arrogant. This is how Chief Schultz and his staff treat the officers and personnel of APD. He is totally out of touch with his officers. Unless your his friend, which you can count on one hand.
I am not telling you to say or do anything. I am just giving an example of our day to day experiences with our chief. Many of you I am sure have worked for someone like this in your life, but how would you like to work for someone who plays god. Sure they tell us to leave if we don't like it, but how immature is that. They attack the spelling or vocabulary on the blog, but come on, is that all they can come up with. How about working to improve morale. They think it's just fine. How totally wrong they are. We work hard and will continue to work hard, not for our chief , but for the citizens we have sworn to protect. We work for you, but are stuck with a dictator for the next year until he and his crew are sent packing.
WORD HAS IT THAT SHERRIF DARREN WHITE WILL BE RUNNING FOR MAYOR AND IF HE WINS, HE WILL KEEP SCHULTZ AS APD'S CHIEF. WELL SHERRIF WHITE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ THIS BLOG, BUT KEEPING SCHULTZ WILL BE A POLITICAL MISTAKE FOR YOU. IN FACT, IT WILL COST YOU THE MAYOR'S ELECTION.
IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD DISTANCE MYSELF AS FAR AWAY FROM RAY SCHULTZ AS POSSIBLE.
To the officers in the last post. Thanks for your hard work and dedication to the city. Our N/A knows you have problems with your chief, but this to shall pass.
December 5, 2008 8:46:00 PM
"Pretending to be an officer is a crime"
So what is your excuse Ron? Most people think your a poser too even though you wear a badge.....Maybe you can file a charge against yourself...Oh I'm sorry that would actually mean you would to know how to file a criminal complaint, plus you might actually have to do some work....excuse me
"Can't wait until Cmdr Candelaria becomes the next APD Chief and fires Ray Shultz and his Deputy Chiefs. APD needs to clear out all the corruption on the chief's office."
I guess shredding Mayor Marty's parking tickets isn't a crime or corruption in most APD officers minds. APD has some very ethically vacant people.
You want another misleading fact.
Chief Schultz where are all the extra officers you claimed to have hired. They sure are not in the field taking calls for service!
This Chief tells bold face lies that we have 1100 officers when we are lucky to have 900. Journal reporter, TJ Wilham knows this, but he owes the chief big on his cover up so he won't print it.
Want proof, go to the substation and see how many officers are in te briefings. On some days we hit the streets with only 4 officers for an entire area. That's scary folks!
If the citizens of ABQ only knew how Chief Schultz fudges the numbers, they would force the Mayor to fire him!
They lowered our standards and inflated the entry pay, but with all the retirements, are numbers never went up, in fact, they went down. We still have acting supervisors on every shift.
However, this chief lies to the Mayor to keep his job and the Mayor is not smart enough to figure it out.
Again, if you don't think this is correct, just go to our briefings and see for your self!
Any one that is running for Mayor next year can use this to show that this administration is all about lying on how many sworn officers APD has. Remember, they will try and count non-sworn cadets in the mix and those that have left into early retirement, and all part time CSA's. They really play with the numbers,but the best way is to go to the field and see how many officers are in uniform in a police car.
The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled ...
Cicero-55 B.C.
(Rome's situation at that time)
Our Chief really sucks!!!!!!!!!! This person is the most arrogant SOB I have ever seen, I can't wait until he's gone! Although I have only been an officer for a year or so, it doesn't give him the right to ignore me and treat me like dirt. I work hard and jump all sorts of calls outside my beat.
Schultz and company should just resign!!!!!!!!!
You officers may not think the Union is behind you, but we are fighting against the administration every day for you. They would be way out of control if it were not for us!
APD 34S WHO COMPLAIN SHOULD QUIT AND GO TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, APD CHEIF SHOULD QUIT CUZ THERES 1 FIRING A MONTH AND ABOUT 6 TO 7 IAS A MONTH, THE MAN POWER THAT IS PROMISE WILL NEVER HAPPEN CUZ OF THE FIRING A MONTH, APD SHOULD PICK UP AVIATION POLICE AND APS POLICE JUST LIKE OPEN SPACE. CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY THERE ARE 3 DIFFERENT POLICE CHEIFS IN THIS DAMN CITY THE APD CHEIF, THE AVIATION CHEIF AND THE APS CHEIF. IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO COMBINE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS INTO ONE HUGE DEPARTMENT. FOR EXAMPLE APS OFFICERS DEAL WITH THE SCHOOLS, KIDS, THE PARENTS AND THE IGNORANT SCHOOL BOARD. AVIATION DEALS WITH SECURITY OF THE SUNPORT, CRIME, LAW AND ORDER IN AND AROUND THE SUNPORT. APD DEALS WITH CRIME AND THE SCUM OF ALBUQUERQUE. OH SNAP I GUESS THIS MAKES SENSE THE CITY WON'T GO WITH IT CUZ THE CITY HAS THEIR HEADS UP THEIR ASS. WHY DOESN'T THIS CITY HAVE EDUCATED PEOPLE THAT FIGHTS FOR WHATS RIGHT INSTEAD THIS CITY HAS IGNORANT PEOPLE TRYING TO BE EDCUATED
"You officers may not think the Union is behind you, but we are fighting against the administration every day for you. They would be way out of control if it were not for us!"
Are you kidding me! This is the same bunch of APOA guys who supported Lawrence Torres over the concerns of REAL APD officers. You guys sell out to the highest bidder. Look at Lawrence now, he is Director of Labor Relations! He is not so dumb as people think, he weaseled his way into the APOA and you guys were dumb enough to let him sell you down the river so Marty could reward him with the director position.
Don't tell us how hard you work for us.
Be thankful you have a Union or Chief Schult and crew would really be fricking out of control. The union keeps these clowns in check.
If you think you can do a better job of fricking controling these clowns, step up and lead the charge!
The Union is working hard for each and every one of you. I have been a board member for numerous years. There is not a single board member that wont jump up and represent you, even at a minutes notice. Come to a meeting, voice your concerns... you might find yourself a little more educated when you leave.
Anonymous says...those who sling mud without identifying themselves and demand others take action while claiming they themselves have all the answers are just as guilty of the acts they claim others have committed.
This site is like a third grade play ground. Until you take the step of dealing with "your issues" like an adult no one will take you or this site seriously.
If your complaints or issues are factual there are numerous avenues to address them other then a site that harbors cry babies and weak minded individuals.
And to those who disagree with my thoughts.....bite me.....your comments posted on this site will not offend me nor will they improve any issue you wish to bitch about.
Not to be the grammar/spelling police, but chief is spelled chief, your means it is yours, you're means you are, scraping the bottom of the barrel is scraping, scrapping the plan is scrapping, and it is a bald faced lie, not bold faced.
Also, to the person who continually posts in all caps? It is considered to be extremely rude to do so, the equivalent of yelling at everyone. Not that anyone cares, but APD looks bad enough already without these kinds of grammatical mistakes. If you sound smart, and write correctly, most of us won't think that what you are saying is stupid, or irrelevant. Just fyi.
Last post is correct. The union will work hard to make sure the Mayor, whoever it is, picks a Chief that cares about this dept, not his pocket book. I think Cghief Schultz is from fricking Chicago, Ill and went to school with their Governor.
"The Union is working hard for each and every one of you. I have been a board member for numerous years. There is not a single board member that wont jump up and represent you, even at a minutes notice."
If you have been a board member for many years then you need to issue an apology to all real APD officers that you sold out to support Lawrence (I was never an APD officer) Torres. I found that there is not a single board member who would not jump at the chance to put his head up Lawrence's ass when he was here. You guys screwed a good deal of real APD officers who tried to warn you. Do us a favor, issue an apology and resign. I would rather have no association than what you guys have done to us.
"The Union is working hard for each and every one of you. I have been a board member for numerous years."
Well instead of all you so called "Board Members" taking cowardly personal attacks on this forum, get off your ass, have some balls for once, and do something constructive to help the membership!
Do I hear an amen!
"Last post is correct. The union will work hard to make sure the Mayor, whoever it is, picks a Chief that cares about this dept, , , "
Hahaha, did you manage to keep a straight face when writing this?
The only difference of not having a union is we won't have to pay any dues!
This is my prediction, Marty will get relected, The current Chief will remain and our union will continue to hide while Lawrence Torres runs circles around these clowns.
Use this blog to disclose the bullshit the 5th floor has been doing....we want to believe!
"December 12, 2008 8:03:00 PM MST
Do I hear an amen!"
AMEN.......
The Eye had it right::::This is APOA Hard At Work For Their Officers::::::::::::
"Friday, April 4, 2008"
"Your Union Dues at Work... and Play?"
"APOA President Ron Olivas. In the four month period covered by the statements he spent $9,712.92 averaging $2,428.23 a month, that's over $29,000 a year.
With 27 trips to various coffee houses it's apparent that coffee is an important part of his day. His favorite coffee house appears to be the Tazza Coffee Bar.
Olivas seems to be spending an awful lot of union money on food and beverages with over $3,000 spent at places like Capos, The Flying Star, Bravo, DG's Deli, Conrad's, The Standard Diner, the Carom Club, and even McDonald's.
In addition to the curious use of union credit cards for food, beverage, and coffee, President Olivas bought 7 airline tickets to Las Vegas for $246.80 each and apparently 5 rooms at the Flamingo Hilton for $147.15. Curiously, there were seven airline tickets and only 5 rooms... We'll let you draw your own conclusions here.
it looks an awful lot like Mr. Olivas is using his union credit card to support his everyday life. Things like trips to Wal-Mart, food, and coffee are almost daily occurences. We understand that part of the job description of union officers is to schmooze elected officials. However, we have a hard time believing that schmoozing includes multiple trips to the Tazza Coffee Bar or $497.23 outings to Conrad's.
If they can't be trusted to steward union dues, why should they be trusted to negotiate member contracts? After all, they're your union dues and the membership should determine whether they are used to work or for the board members to play.
From the looks of the four months of credit card statements that we've gotten a look at, it appears that Mr. Olivas, Christopher George, and Benjamin Baker have been spending union money on non-union goods and services."
Keep Up The Great Work Fellas and Have Another $200.00 Cigar on Us......Now Resign and Go Away.
Lawerence Judus Torrez is a fricking traitor! He was not even a real APD cop because he was rejected. Dirty/corrupt Nick Bakas brought him in the back door to screw over the real APD cops, then Marty gave him a high paying job with his high school education.
He better hope Smarty wins, as we won't forget what he has done!
I work grave and have yet to see any impact of the so called 1100 officers we now have according to the chief. We still have several vacancies in our squads. Acting Sgts on the various shifts and lots of calls holding. Officers are still retiring like crazy.
So, I now ask, where are all the new officers the chief swears we have???????????????? Be honest and tell the public we are very short handed. We have less officers taking calls now, than two years ago!
Everyone is saying that our Comander will be the next new chief if he does not get another job he applied for. I pray that our Comander becomes chief and fixes the terrible mess we are in. We really need a new chief!
What happened to Sgt. Cass Kosolowski motion to have a full account of all officers. THere are field officers that have been TDY for years to specialized unit. Chief, if you are so truthful in your numbers, why are you so afraid to account for everyone?
9 reitrements as of Dec 31st, once again you have no clue because you are a hater, pure and simple,hater. Too bad you cant retire, everyone wants you gone. I checked on the number of retirements, fact, Im also one of the people who verified all your accusations on the apoa people was false. I did my homework to try and be a better supervisor. you are a cancer. You havent seen the mirror lately......
Im also one of the people who verified all your accusations on the apoa people was false.
December 16, 2008 2:25:00 PM MST
Let me guess, you asked Ron, right?? And hetold you what you wanted to hear and that's why the APOA bank acount is just over flowing..... But then again he, Ron, as I understand it has altered the overt way that he spends APOA member's funds. Hey if you dont care how money is spent then 'give me a bailout', that way I can get a load of cash and spend it how ever and when ever I want. Did he explain the expenditure on the cigars or did you get passified by getting one yourself. Tell me this Mr. Supervisor, have most of the current and past APOA Presidents and VP's been given choice duty? How about Ron himself,Lawrence Torres and most of the rest..did you look into that too since you are wanting to be such a great 'supervisor'....
And for you to imply that retirements are not a factor nor are they an issue, again you are wrong. You need to look at the total number of retirements for the year and for the up coming year, not just for the single month of December. Good God, are you really a 'supervisor' or you a wanna-be rent-a-cop who is posing on this site as being a real Cop. With your inability to actually conduct a valid and professional investigation do us all a favor give a refund to the tax payers for over paying you, get out, go away and do not pass go....See ya moron.
"...Im also one of the people who verified all your accusations on the apoa people was false" WTF does this mean? Which accusations are you talking about...there are lots...
People who live in glass houses should not throw rock!!!!!
I have heard of numerous cops who go to training for a few hours and claim a full days pay. I have also heard of cops being sent home early from their daily schedule but are still paid a full days pay. If the union is mishandling funds then it should be investigated....but so should all the time cards of officers.
If you are displeased with how your union dues are being used then quit the union. I as a citizen feel an audit should be done on actual time worked because it is my tax dollars at work.
Once Pandora's box is open it cannot be closed!!!!
WAH WAH WAH! I can't have it my way so I'll complain about everyone else. Reality check Doufus, management sets protocol for all companies. If the working hours, job requirement, supervision or anything else is not to you liking choose another company. Unless you are being discriminated against or harassed (and can prove it in court) you do not have a case. If your working wages and job assignment is that miserable change employers. No one has any sympathy for someone making $23+ an hour when a significant number of citizens are losing their jobs and homes during this recession.
The public is tired of hearing from a few whining cops who can't have it their way! As a tax paying citizen I respect the majority of cops in this city and the commitment they make on a daily basis. I just can't stand the group who whine and cry saying they have it so bad and blame others for their so called misfortune. It sounds like there are a few cops who slipped through the cracks and they should move on with their lives.
There are to many good cops out there for a few disgruntled individuals to bring discredit upon them. For those who are unhappy, get together as a group and show up to the next council meeting in force. Oh but wait, you'll come up with some excuse that you will be retaliated against for speaking up when in fact deep down inside your motives are selfish and realize the majority does not support your point of view.
Whiners move on, let the professionals serve the citizens of this community!
Ok hater, its 18 for the year,nine came back. wow big droves leaving. and no, I talked to the cpa and the attorneys, as I stated I dont care for the current board or the pres, but they are cops and I give them that much for trying. the cigars were puchased by the former vp and pres while they spent thousands in NYC. I may be a new naive supervisor part of the new gen. but we have to take the dept back from losers like you
Hey DC Castro, that was really nice of you to give some gifts with your name etched on them. You must really love yourself.
I wonder if you gave a gift to Officer Debra Aragon, you know what I mean there!
You and the other little DC really set poor examples for us to follow. You preach all this B.S of how great you are, honesty and integrity, but look what you two married men have been doing!!!!!!! Chief Schultz should have fired you both for those acts!
That's right, don't think we don't know what you two were doing and with whom!
There still is the picture on the camera phone, so don't think there is not any proof.
You two really set some bad examples for the officers to follow. You should both be ashamed of yourself.
I heard about the DC's. Those poor girls. How the have suffered.
Who knows where to download XRumer 5.0 Palladium?
Help, please. All recommend this program to effectively advertise on the Internet, this is the best program!
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